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Question No more PIS!?!

What would happen if suddenly PIS was banned from comics?

How would they change and could it work? If so would it be for the better/worse, what would they be like afterward IYO?


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If PIS were to be banned from comics, many of our favorite Super Hero's and Heroines would die. Batman should have died many times but it was PIS that saved him. I think that they should come up with a comic character like Access, and call him PIS.


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Re: No more PIS!?!

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What would happen if suddenly PIS was banned from comics?

How would they change and could it work? If so would it be for the better/worse, what would they be like afterward IYO?

You can throw most (if not all) stories involving high-end Cosmics out the window.


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Comics would suddenly become a hell of a lot more realistic, every time a Superhero fought, hundreds of people would die.


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Comics would be absolutely terrible. They'd be boring as all hell.


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Comics would be absolutely terrible. They'd be boring as all hell.


Nah.


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One of the elements to successful storytelling is internal consistency. This is why, eg, though I despise magic in comics, it works so well in, say, something like "Lord of the Rings," because it is faithful to rules established beforehand. Translation: no PIS.

Remove PIS from comics: fanboys will overheat and explode.


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Too bad the gigantic fog light that is Sauron was useless.


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Too bad the gigantic fog light that is Sauron was useless.
I guess you're saying LOTR has its own share of PIS (no doubt, since magic is involved, after all). Still, the more internally consistent a story is (all else being equal), the better the "suspension of disbelief," and I think LOTR does this better than most comics.


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You can throw most (if not all) stories involving high-end Cosmics out the window.


Always about the cosmics? confused


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Always about the cosmics? confused
It seems to be all he knows.

But most are lame anyway.

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I would just love to see them make a few stories involving big characters, ex Batman, Spiderman, Superman, Ironman... Without all the stupidity.

Maybe I'm just a weirdo that would love to see more realistic comics and heroes.
That's why I love Heroes so much thou I guess, to me its what comics would be if they were real.


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quote: (post)
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I would just love to see them make a few stories involving big characters, ex Batman,

Shot and killed on the second page of the first issue.

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Spiderman,

Accidentally puts his fist through someone's skull - turns himself in and is imprisoned.

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Superman,

One of two things. A) See Spiderman B) Beats every villain in metropolis in the span of three panels, and never need produce another comic again.
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Ironman...

Heart stopped. End of issue.
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Without all the stupidity.

Maybe I'm just a weirdo that would love to see more realistic comics and heroes.
That's why I love Heroes so much thou I guess, to me its what comics would be if they were real.


I'm all for realism in comics, but PIS is a necessary evil. Without it, we couldn't have reasonably entertaining comics.


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Originally posted by llagrok
Too bad the gigantic fog light that is Sauron was useless.


.....

Wrong.

Sauron (whilst lacking a physical form) was still a heavy-hitter. His new form can communicate telepathically, use illusions, has an incredibly wide range, is (technically) indestructible and has a corrupting influence. Add the fact that (in this form) after obtaining 'The Ring' he essentially becomes an 'Evil God' and you have a Shadow King esque creature.


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Shot and killed on the second page of the first issue.


Accidentally puts his fist through someone's skull - turns himself in and is imprisoned.


One of two things. A) See Spiderman B) Beats every villain in metropolis in the span of three panels, and never need produce another comic again.

Heart stopped. End of issue.


I'm all for realism in comics, but PIS is a necessary evil. Without it, we couldn't have reasonably entertaining comics.
Funny comments and I agree Pis is necessary
here are a few others

Magneto kills all the X-men in their first battle against him
Joker is shot in the head
Lex luthor melted by HV
Most of the world is destroyed by the Hulk who seems to destroy a city everytime he is in a comic.


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Spiderman dies of cancer after getting bitten by a radioactive Spider.
Bruce Banner gets disintegrated in the first issue.
Fantastic Four die of cancer after returning from space.
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Spiderman dies of cancer after getting bitten by a radioactive Spider.
Bruce Banner gets disintegrated in the first issue.
Fantastic Four die of cancer after returning from space.
big grin


Those wouldn't be examples of a lack of PIS, in our sense of terms.

What you named revolves around suspension of disbelief - which is an implied contract whenever you pick up a work of fiction.

Plot induced stupidity, as it were, revolves around vastly contradicting showings. The Flash outracing death to the end of time and being fast enough that, to him, even beings as fast as Superman are simply frozen in time versus....getting stabbed by Deathstroke or tripped by a branch.


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Simply put two things: Alot of superheoes would die(Batman, Captain America, Wolverine) and some heroes would never lose(Superman, Flash, and Silver Surfer.)

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Those wouldn't be examples of a lack of PIS, in our sense of terms.

What you named revolves around suspension of disbelief - which is an implied contract whenever you pick up a work of fiction.

Plot induced stupidity, as it were, revolves around vastly contradicting showings. The Flash outracing death to the end of time and being fast enough that, to him, even beings as fast as Superman are simply frozen in time versus....getting stabbed by Deathstroke or tripped by a branch.


Ok how does this apply to Batman being shot in the second page of the first issue?

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it would CHANGE comic alot....although not necessarily for the worse


Batman would no longer team up with Superman, he'll stick to Gotham mostly

mostly, you'll see less of interactions between vastly different powerleveled characters


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