EVANGEL94's Final Slugfest Tournament: Round 1-4; TricksterPriest vs Darthgoober
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TricksterPriest
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Darthgoober
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...the reason Super Adaptoid is limited in the number of people who's powers he can copy at once is because Super Adaptoid's body can only store/channel so much energy at a time. But the Silver Adaptoid doesn't have the body of SA, he has the body of Surfer and Surfer's body was MADE to store/channel unreal amounts of energy(I have scans ready if anyone needs proof of just how much) which means that I'll be able to access far more abilities at once than SA without overloading.
With that said, at the outset of prep, the Silver Adaptoid is going to access the abilities of Reed Richards, the Fixer, Hank Pym, and Mar-vell. I'll then use the combined technical knowledge of those characters and the abilities of the SA in conjunction with the Power Cosmic of the Silver Surfer to create a brand new Super Adaptoid from cosmic energy, complete with the templates that the original Super Adaptoid has access to and programmed to obey my every command. This will pose no problem for my character because Surfer's shown time and time again that transmuting sophisticated technology is well within his capabilities.
Proof that Surfer can create the adaptoid's high tech body...
When the process is finished(which as the Quasimodo scan specifically states will take seconds) I'll use the Nega Bands to revitalize myself(if it's even necessary).
So within a matter of seconds, I have my own Super Adaptoid minion who will then proceed to copy the abilities of Silver Surfer from me(via touch so it's instantaneous)... but just to be safe and avoid skepticism on the part of the judges, I'll round up and say that the entire process takes a minute flat.
Then my Adaptoid minion and I will start a rinse and repeat cycle, where each of us will create ANOTHER Super Adaptoid just like the first who will ALSO then go on to create even more adaptoids with the process lasting a total of 14 minutes. So if we do the math...
End of 1st minute= 2 Adaptoids(myself, and my creation)
2nd minute= 4 Adaptoids
3rd= 8
4th= 16
5th= 32
6th= 64
7th= 128
8th= 256
9th= 512
10th= 1024
11th= 2048
12th= 4096
13th= 8,192
14th= 16,384
That's right after 14 minutes of work I have 16,383 Adaptoids(not counting me) under my control, with a full minute leftover. I'll then drop the templates I've been using and use the telepathic abilities and power cosmic of the Silver Surfer to coordinate my plans with my minions(the other adaptoids can help with this if necessary). As part of the plans my army will assume the following templates...
7,000 Adaptoids will access the powers of the SIlver Surfer
3,000 Adaptoids will access the powers of Thor
342 Adaptoids will access the powers of the Vision and Mar-Vell
341 Adaptoids will access the powers of the Scarlet Witch and Mar-Vell
Proof that Surfer's powers will be sufficient to join the minds of all the adaptoids and relay info and plans...
*Note- During the battle 1,000 of the "Silver Surfer adaptoids" will be assigned to monitoring the battle via psi-skills and Cosmic Awareness, and making sure that info is shared by everyone else in the army. Their energies will be directed to no other purpose but keeping thier force field's intact. I'll be directing the battle personally, using the combined tactical knowledge of Mar-Vell and Captain America in conjunction with Cosmic Awareness to maximum effect.
Another 1,000 of the "Surfer Adaptoids" will hang back to the rear of the battle as guards to myself and those assigned to psi duty.*
When everyone is set, my army raises their force fields(since everyone's copying someone who can make force fields) and waits for the battle to start while I take on the attributes of Marvell, the Vision, and Captain America.
Battle Phase.
In the first instant of Battle, I and the adaptoids I designated earlier will use Cosmic Awareness to "scan" for useful info on our opponents. As soon as we’re through, the 341 adaptoids have them will attack en masse with the powers of the Scarlet Witch, quite literally destroying his chances for victory. It's hard to call what'll happen next because I don't know for sure what Trick has in mind so we'll just keep it simple. The bulk of my army(the ones without prior assignments) will then blitz off at full speed to our opponents location, eliminating anything the psi's perceive to be a threat. Any exotic tech present on the battle field will be either transmuted or shut down, any powerful energy attacks will be absorbed or reflected(as will powerful energy sources), constructs/minions destroyed, etc. My army will alternate strategies/tactics/character templates as new orders are relayed to them, but in the beginning they'll attack in waves and simply overwhelm opposition while copying their abilities.
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Thankfully, I have Goober on my ignore list, so I can't accidently read what he wrote.
anyways, my turn to write.
You all know my boys. And for our prep location, we pick Metron's lab.
Keep in mind, we have 36 hours to do whatever we can with our resources.
Some of you may have asked, 'Why Metron?' Answer: The mobius chair and unparalled genius. I plan to build the chair during prep time. For those saying I can't do it,
I apologize for the scan blitz. But my strategy is rather complex. You see, I plan to build the mobius chair, and use it and Waverider's temporal perception (with some help from Rip Hunter as well) to reconstruct the Worlogog.
Metron built the chair, so 36 hours is more than enough time to make a new one, especially considering how advanced new god tech is.
After that, we take Rip Hunter along, and do a quick jaunt through time to get the pieces of the Gog.
So why Waverider? Waverider has incredible precision in time travel and temporal manipulation. I may not have time manip payed for, but I still get his temporal perception as part of his body. http://img339.imageshack.us/my.php?...xtant022ge3.jpg
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I don't need to buy time manip. Building the chair is part of my prep. Anything I make in prep, is prep-based, and not power based. Thus, no need to buy time manip if I built a time machine.
My prep area is Metron's lab, I have not left the battlefield. Once I'm on the field, after my 36 hours are done, then I am not leaving it.
3. Darkseid said he would give a large amount of it, enough to sate all of Metron's scientific curiosity, after the Boom tube project was finished. I'm sure Metron has enough to rebuild his chair.
And my guy's name isn't Wavetron. It's Extant Prime.
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Last edited by TricksterPriest on Mar 7th, 2008 at 01:28 AM
Hate to play the spoiler, but goober's right. I asked Evangel a similar question about building something and having it do organic matter manip. It was a big no-no unless I bought the organic matter manip power. Any banned powers are banned period, and tech can't loophole its way through.
Like I said to you at some point, you should've been confirming this with Evangel far earlier so as not to get caught with your pants down.
Obviously, if I misinterpreted her ruling on the matter, she can overturn it. But as it stands, I think you're in some trouble. I don't like saying something this early in a match, but I'd rather not see a "yuh-huh" "nuh-uh" style argument ensue. I won't say any more out of respect to the participants, but this will need confirmed at some point.
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The chair is not strictly time manip, it's a logic warp. And it was constructed in prep time. Technology is one thing, powers is another. I'm using my brains and prep for this, and there is no limit on what I can do on prep. Evangel herself said there is no intelligence cap. And Metron comes equipped with motherboxes, which I can also use if the chair is out.
Also, the tech does not manipulate time. Just travel through it. We are not disrupting time, because Rip is showing us how to avoid solid time and events that would change history.
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Last edited by TricksterPriest on Mar 7th, 2008 at 01:37 AM
If you're going to other periods of time and taking things then you're manipulating time. It's just that simple.
Since when are we allowed to leave our designated prep locations to search for things? Does that mean that anyone with lab prep can leave and head over to the Baxter Building and steal some devices from Reed Richards? Or for that matter would it be ok for Tony Stark(since Doom can also build a time machine) to travel to THIS moment in time...
... and grab the IG off the ground before Warlock appears?
Short answer, NO.
I didn't see him hand out a large amount of it, nor have I seen a scan where it's shown or stated that he has enough for a whole new Mobius Chair. Is there any such evidence or are you just speculating?
Also, again you never bought time manipulation or reality warping. Does the Worlogog have any feats that DON'T involve one of those things? If not, it's not really all that useful of an item since you wouldn't actually be allowed to do anything with it.
Guys, we have a bit of a problem. Please PM Evangel94 for clarification. I don't want this thread breaking down into a debate on what a participant can and can't use.
Digi: If I create a piece of tech in the battle that can do a lot of different powers (matter manip, time manip, etc.) does it just go under tech, or am I banned from those additional powers unless I purchase them?
Evangel: Anything that allows you to manipulate time, time manipulation must be bought
She can clarify if needed, but those are here exact words copy/pasted, so in lieu of an official confirmation, they may be able to act as such in the interim.
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Nice try. But in a straight match, where he has to fight, Metron will do what is needed. He's never had the inclination to re-assemble the Worlogog, but he was always fully capable of the task. And I have no doubt that he could possibly duplicate the precision with his tech. 2nd, He already had the 'gog once. it would perfectly in character for him (and his massive ego) to seek the knowledge it would provide.
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"Characters will act in-character. If character nature dictates it, there can be in-fighting amongst team members despite the motivation. Warlock will only use the soul suck as a last resort against a ruthless villain who is killing his teammates, never on a hero. Same with Blackbolt’s scream or Thor’s godblast."
So where has Metron EVER showed it to be in his character to try to reassemble the gog to use as a weapon in a typical battle situation? Because if he's NEVER done it, it's a tad unrealistic to say that it's "in character" for him to do so now.
And I fully believe that YOU believe just that, but what actual proof do you have for everyone else?
So he's just going to use it for knowledge? How in the Hell does that help you when you have an army of Surfer's and Thor's raining down Hell on you and your team?
And again, does the gog have any feats that don't involve time or reality manipulation(which you didn't pay for)?
Just to kill time until Evangel overrules Trick's blatant rule violation, I'll humor him so everyone has something to read other than the two of us bickering.
IF strategies like Trick's are legal(which it's not) it's not going to make a damn bit of difference. See since my amalgam has far better speed/reflexes than Tricks it means that we'll be acting first. So when our Cosmic Awareness tells us what's up here's what we're going to do...
1. All Adaptoids not otherwise assigned blast's off at full speed and starts bombarding Trick as a distraction.
2. The Silver Adaptoid then expands his senses and locates a Cosmic Cube.
3. The Silver Adaptoid then opens a space portal to the cubes location and uses the Power Cosmic/telekinesis to pull the cube through the portal and into his hand.
I'm not arguing the Gog's power(quite the contrary in fact) I'm seeking conformation on it's abilities. I saw a bunch of feats involving the manipulation of time and reality, but since you're not allowed to do any of that I don't really know what the point of the scans are.
Besides it doesn't matter because I'll have the gog in MY hand via the Cosmic Cube before you can do any of that.
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