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I'm hoping the new film will show like TOS did that the Enterprise could fire phasers accurately whilst at warp. The original Enterprise was awesome!
May 4th, 2008 08:26 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Big Len
I'm hoping the new film will show like TOS did that the Enterprise could fire phasers accurately whilst at warp. The original Enterprise was awesome!
I'm pretty phasers were used at warp in both Ds9 and Voyager. *shrugs*
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May 5th, 2008 05:53 AM
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I'm pretty phasers were used at warp in both Ds9 and Voyager. *shrugs*
I am almost positive they have been fired while in warp....torpedoes can not be fired while in warp.......Thats how most of the games are btw
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May 5th, 2008 04:48 PM
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They fire torpedoes in warp often enough in the series.
The games are all over the place- continuity nightmare.
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Ushgarak
They fire torpedoes in warp often enough in the series.
The games are all over the place- continuity nightmare.
i know the games have those rules, but i cant say i have ever seen a torpedo fired while in warp in any show, not off the top of my head,thats allot of shows and episodes...and my memory aint what it used to be
But if you say they were ,i will take your word for it
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Ushgarak
They fire torpedoes in warp often enough in the series.
The games are all over the place- continuity nightmare.
Frankly the shows are a continuity nightmare as well. Mostly minor things but some of them really annoyed me.
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by starlock
i know the games have those rules, but i cant say i have ever seen a torpedo fired while in warp in any show, not off the top of my head,thats allot of shows and episodes...and my memory aint what it used to be
But if you say they were ,i will take your word for it He's right. Torpedoes and phasers/disruptors have both been employed at warp in both the movies (ST:Nemesis, for example) and TNG-Voy. The Prometheus used weapons at warp and Voyager did the same against the Kazon. There are other instances, though these are the immediate examples that came to mind.
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Re: Re: Re: Warp Straffing
quote: (post ) Originally posted by starlock
I am almost positive they have been fired while in warp....torpedoes can not be fired while in warp.......Thats how most of the games are btw
they're fired rearwards at warp in Q-who are they not...when the borg are in pursuit of the enterprise?....
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=FXvi8...feature=related
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May 5th, 2008 08:15 PM
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How often though is warp strafing used where a vehicle in warp firs on a sub light craft?
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Captain SEX
How often though is warp strafing used where a vehicle in warp firs on a sub light craft?
That was fairly common during the original Star Trek. "The Ultimate Computer", "Balance of Terror" and "Elaan of Troyius", and ST:TMP all contain instances of FTL ships using weapons against sublight ships.
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Acrosurge
That was fairly common during the original Star Trek. "The Ultimate Computer", "Balance of Terror" and "Elaan of Troyius", and ST:TMP all contain instances of FTL ships using weapons against sublight ships.
Yes, and we have not seen it at all since the original series. I am convinced this would give the Federation the edge of the Star Wars Galactic empire.
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Yes, and we have not seen it at all since the original series. I am convinced this would give the Federation the edge of the Star Wars Galactic empire.
It is an edge, no doubt, but do you think it is a definitive one?
In every instance of Warp Strafing in the original series, it was only done because the target ship was inhibited or unable to go to warp. I suppose that Warp Strafing wouldn't make much tactical difference against ships that can go FTL at a whim (which would be almost all the TNG ships onward). That might explain why we don't see it in the later series. It does not explain why the Klingons and the Dominion failed to use this technique against Ds9. Perhaps they would have been unable to deliver the bombardment necessary to penetrate the stations shields using only strafing techniques? We have only speculation.
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Acrosurge
It is an edge, no doubt, but do you think it is a definitive one?
In every instance of Warp Strafing in the original series, it was only done because the target ship was inhibited or unable to go to warp. I suppose that Warp Strafing wouldn't make much tactical difference against ships that can go FTL at a whim (which would be almost all the TNG ships onward). That might explain why we don't see it in the later series. It does not explain why the Klingons and the Dominion failed to use this technique against Ds9. Perhaps they would have been unable to deliver the bombardment necessary to penetrate the stations shields using only strafing techniques? We have only speculation.
A combination of warp and temporal torpedoes should do the trick.
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May 6th, 2008 10:07 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by HARRY MUDD
A combination of warp and temporal torpedoes should do the trick.
Chroniton Torpedoes are pretty broken. Nothing like totally bypassing the shields and armor of your enemy!
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May 6th, 2008 10:14 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Acrosurge
Chroniton Torpedoes are pretty broken. Nothing like totally bypassing the shields and armor of your enemy!
I think Star Wars is defeated.
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They may have much faster FTl than Trek but, they do not fight at multiples of C and have no time tech.
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May 6th, 2008 10:16 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by HARRY MUDD
They may have much faster FTl than Trek but, they do not fight at multiples of C and have no time tech.
But they do have teh turb01zrs!!!1111
I beg your pardon. I'm done now. *securely chains inner fangeek*
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May 6th, 2008 10:24 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Acrosurge
But they do have teh turb01zrs!!!1111
I beg your pardon. I'm done now.
But we have no evidence teh turbolasers can hit a ftl object. I remember getting banned from a forum for saying that.
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May 6th, 2008 10:25 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by HARRY MUDD
But we have no evidence teh turbolasers can hit a ftl object. I remember getting banned from a forum for saying that.
Doesn't matter! Turb01zrs FTW!1!!111
Darn fangeek! *very heavily sedates and securely chains inner fangeek*
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Acrosurge
Doesn't matter! Turb01zrs FTW!1!!111
Darn fangeek! *very heavily sedates and securely chains inner fangeek*
The name is hilarious isn't it "Turbo laser" 1010101010
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