1. Win.
2. Win.
3. Win.
4. Win.
5. Win.
6. Win... maybe. Maul's got him beat by a mile in sabers, so if he get's in close...
7. Win. Not in sabers, but with overwhelming Force barrage.
8. Does anyone seriously know?
9. Loses. In sabers, def. In Force, I'm not really sure, but I can see the Count pulling off a victory if he shrouds Marek in blows.
10. Loses sabers, may win the Force. May.
11. Win. Not by much though.
12. Loses.
13. Is this Orbalisk Bane? If so, then loses.
14. Loses. Hilariously.
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1. Win
2. Win
3. Win
4. Win
5. Win
6. Win. Maul isn't nearly as good as Starkiller in the force, and so he gets raped before he can assault Starkiller with his lightsaber.
7. Win
8. Win
9. Probably a win, but it would be very, very difficult. The instant Dooku gets close to Starkiller, Marek's ****ed- Dooku has a close-ranged force ability to match his own, and is a far superior lightsaber duelist.
10. Should be a win. Exar's amulets may spell gloom and doom for Marek, though.
11. Win
12. Loss. A pathetic loss in sabers, and considering Marek's arsenal of force weapons is primarly dark-side oriented, Windu's Vaapad should assist him. He's MUCH faster, too.
13. No orbalisks? Galen FTW.
14. Horrible loss.
1. He wins, casually. Superior command of the Force.
2. He wins, casually. Superior command of the Force.
3. He wins, casually. Superior command of the Force.
4. He wins, albeit with moderately more difficulty than the earlier three, since Darth Malak's mastery of the Force surpasses the likes of Kenobi and Jinn. Still, nothing particularly strenuous.
5. He wins, casually. Superior command of the Force.
6. This requires some thought. Maul was highly regarded even on a historical spectrum in terms of training, stamina, and skill as a Sith apprentice. Given his stamina, I'd say that he wouldn't be hurled aside with ease -- but his powers still pale in comparison to Marek's.
7. He wins, casually. Superior command of the Force.
8. He would win this with some considerable difficulty. There can be no question that Darth Revan is a prodigious master of the Force, though, to my knowledge, he hasn't demonstrated Force powers that are as ferocious and 'unleashed' (pun intended) as Starkiller's. It would be close, I'd imagine.
9. As with the above, Count Dooku is a prodigious master of the Force, though his research hasn't been as scholarly as Darth Revan. He is also, however, a highly seasoned duelist and demonstrates more efficiency and proficiency with telekinesis and multi-tasking than most Force users. He'd give Starkiller hell, I'd imagine, but his powers are simply not as destructive or as unleashed.
10. No idea here. On paper, I doubt Kun's natural Force aptitude compares. But he does have amulets, yes? I'll leave this to Lightsnake or Nai.
11. He wins, but I'm hesitant to say casually. Marek does, however, possesses the superior command of the Force.
12. He would probably win. As with some other combatants here, he'd be doomed in a lightsaber arena, but Vaapad won't protect Mace from everything and his command of the Force simply does not register next to Marek's.
13. I'll leave this to Lightsnake. I haven't read RoT, though Bane is a beast.
14. The official databank says that Marek was "ultimately no match for the powers of Darth Sidious" and when he united himself with the Force and unleashed an explosion that "shattered the Emperor's tower," disintegrated stormtroopers, and caused massive visual damage to the hull of the Death Star -- Palpatine survived without injury. The Emperor quite handily Force-spanks Marek.
Hmm... I would say he does defeat ROTS Skywalker, but with more difficulty than most of you give him credit for.
Regarding Bane... 'Galen FTW'? C'mon, even without the Orbalisks I'd consider Bane a very difficult task for Marek. He could win, but definitely a close one.
We don't actually know Bane's capabilities w/o orbalisks- he was still out of it at the end of the book. It is likely that he decreased in power considerably with the loss of the armor.
Well, what the Orbalisks do is send an incredible amount of adrenaline into his bloodstream, increasing his physical strength and dark side energies. I'm not sure how potent this 'boost' he recieves is, so I can't be sure just how much would his strength and power reduce without them.
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Precisely. We can't quantify Post-Orbalisk Bane, so he is an unknown. RoT Bane has to be with the armor, because we don't know what he was like without it.
Well for what it's worth, I still don't consider Marek to be nearly as powerful as everyone is making him out to be.
So he redirected a falling Star Destroyer. It's not nearly the most impressive feat we've ever seen. Tipping a falling object takes FAR less effort than lifting it, for instance. Nihilus freakin lifted the Ravager (which isn't quite as big, I know, but the fact that he pulled up rather than redirect takes FAR more energy). I'd say that beats Marek's feat pretty handily. Revan was called the most powerful of his age and the descriptions given to him pretty heavily outweigh the praise Nihilus gets, so he's probably stronger than Marek too. Exar Kun's spirit was able to strait up take down post-DE Luke. The actual man should have been at least as powerful, and I would definately give a fight between DE Luke (or Jedi Academy, really) and Marek to Luke. But, whatever, that's just my thoughts on it.
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the most impressive thing, in my opinion that marek did was pull down a space elevator with the force. Not the star destroyer thing.
The other thing that IMO, gives him a high level is his powering of the cruiser ship on the garbage world, using only the force, as well as his force blast that killed hundreds of droids. I would put all three of those above moving the star destroyer.
Refresh my memory on the elevator incident, please. And the droid killing Force Blast. I'm just drawing up blanks at the moment.
Powering the cruiser is cool and all, but I don't think it'd take that much power. I'm pretty sure that raw energy-wise it's not all that huge cause it was for like a only a moment.
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both are from the novel
Don't know if they were repeated or not in teh comics. The droid blast for sure wasn't, since that entire planet is skipped in the comic book.
However, tearing down the elevator took place on Kasshyk after he found Leia? ring a bell?
Oh yeah. That really took him a long time. And he mainly just made stuff damage the supports. It's cool and all, but pretty replicate able by a lot of people I think.
Can you give me some description of what took place during the droid blast?
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