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Da Pittman
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Is tax a sin?

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Originally posted by The Scribe
It means most people in that day saw them as the thieves they were.
But, today people don't know the true laws.
Most taxes are illegal including the Federal Reserve.
"To coin money."

Everyone working for them is yes.

Just like the courts would convict people that work for the mob and so on, or a getaway driver. All he did was drive the vehicle.

The Pharisees must not have liked them either.
I'd say they didn't like tax collectors.
Seems you can't connect things.

The Pharisees wanted to discredited Jesus any way they could.
So, they would use anything and everything they could think of.

You are such a hypocrite

Just because most people saw them that way doesn't mean they were, that is a gross generalization. Can you show me where the Bible says that being a tax collector is a sin?

Your analogy also fails, they wouldn't convict them if they were forced to drive the car or unaware if their was a crime in progress. Buy that same thought process you should convict the gas station for selling them gas, the car manufacture for making the car and so on.

So if everyone in the IRS is a sinner then what about the people that built the building, supply them with electricity to do their sin, the mail person for bringing the sinners the mail and for you paying your taxes to support this sin?

So how about you address the rest of my post or is it that I'm correct and you are just as much of a sinner as those you are passing judgment on?

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Shakyamunison
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You sinner. stick out tongue

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You sinner.

I should become a tax collector and tax you for playing that devil music. mad

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Jul 2nd, 2009 08:16 PM

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So, who ratted?

Yes, it is a sin and they will all burn for it. evil face

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Originally posted by Da Pittman
I should become a tax collector and tax you for playing that devil music.

I have to make money first. stick out tongue

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Originally posted by The Scribe
So, who ratted?

Yes, it is a sin and they will all burn for it.

Please provide something more then just your opinion. Not that I like tax collectors.

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I have to make money first.

Hippie Buddha needs a job. stick out tongue

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Jul 2nd, 2009 08:19 PM

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Hippie Buddha needs a job.

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Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Please provide something more then just your opinion. Not that I like tax collectors.

It's not my opinion. My God says so and the Constitution backs Him up.

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Jul 2nd, 2009 08:21 PM

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It's not my opinion. My God says so and the Constitution backs Him up.

Your god talks to you? eek!

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Originally posted by Da Pittman
You are such a hypocrite

Just because most people saw them that way doesn't mean they were, that is a gross generalization. Can you show me where the Bible says that being a tax collector is a sin?

Your analogy also fails, they wouldn't convict them if they were forced to drive the car or unaware if their was a crime in progress. Buy that same thought process you should convict the gas station for selling them gas, the car manufacture for making the car and so on.

So if everyone in the IRS is a sinner then what about the people that built the building, supply them with electricity to do their sin, the mail person for bringing the sinners the mail and for you paying your taxes to support this sin?

So how about you address the rest of my post or is it that I'm correct and you are just as much of a sinner as those you are passing judgment on?

Taxes are a method of ensuring everyone in a given society is helping that society be sustained.

Jesus paid his taxes and encouraged others to do so...(possibly)...St. Paul encourages Christians to take an active role in society and this includes taxation.

Is taxation theft? No, it is a charge for belonging to a society- if you don't like it. Leave.

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Your god talks to you?

No, but you can read you're KJV. wink

Anyway, Buddha boy need not apply.

Repent.

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Jul 2nd, 2009 08:31 PM

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Originally posted by The Scribe
It's not my opinion. My God says so and the Constitution backs Him up.

Your god doesn't say so because he had to have other people write the Bible for him because he doesn't know how to read and write. stick out tongue

Please show me where it says that being a tax collector is a sin?

How are taxes against the Constitution?

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Originally posted by The Scribe
No, but you can read you're KJV.

Anyway, Buddha boy need not apply.

Repent.

So, why do you reject God's One Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church?

BTW when discussing the New Testament tax collectors we should remember the objection that the Pharisees had to them is that they were collecting taxes for an invading pagan state which they argued had stolen sovereignty over Jewish land. They did not object to the Temple Tax. King David had a system of taxation, when was he condemned for it?

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Jul 2nd, 2009 08:33 PM

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Originally posted by The Scribe
No, but you can read you're KJV.

Anyway, Buddha boy need not apply.

Repent.

Buddha boy? Thank you!

I have read it, and Grand-Moff-Gav is right on the money. I think you haven't read it, and are just making stuff up. no expression

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Originally posted by Grand-Moff-Gav
Taxes are a method of ensuring everyone in a given society is helping that society be sustained.

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Jesus paid his taxes and encouraged others to do so...(possibly)...St. Paul encourages Christians to take an active role in society and this includes taxation.

It is Paul, not "Saint" Paul. Unless you're a member of the
idol-worshipping, cult known as Catholicism.

And, no, Jesus would be against this government. They call themselves Christians and are not.

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Is taxation theft? No, it is a charge for belonging to a society- if you don't like it. Leave.

Yes, it is.

Point me in the direction of a place I can start my own country, without any interference, and I'm gone. wink

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Jul 2nd, 2009 08:36 PM

Shakyamunison
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Originally posted by The Scribe
No

It is Paul, not "Saint" Paul. Unless you're a member of the
idol-worshipping, cult known as Catholicism.

And, no, Jesus would be against this government. They call themselves Christians and are not.

Yes, it is.

Point me in the direction of a place I can start my own country, without any interference, and I'm gone.

Still just your opinion.

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Jul 2nd, 2009 08:37 PM

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Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Still just your opinion.

Like I said before...no. wink

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Jul 2nd, 2009 08:38 PM

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Originally posted by The Scribe
No

It is Paul, not "Saint" Paul. Unless you're a member of the
idol-worshipping, cult known as Catholicism.

And, no, Jesus would be against this government. They call themselves Christians and are not.

Yes, it is.

Point me in the direction of a place I can start my own country, without any interference, and I'm gone.

It IS saint Paul because he IS a saint and yes I am a member of said "cult".

How do you know what Jesus would be for? What do you possibly know about it? You have no history to your belief...other than a poorly translated bible commsissioned by a very morally corrupt king. (Not that that necessarily makes the KJV invalid ofcourse but it will be good for you to remember when you start on the "corrupt Pope" rant that you probably had drilled into your brain by your pastor).

The Moon?

Or you could join the Quakers...or get a boat and go live in international waters.

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