Dr Will Hatch
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Has anyone read "Looking Backward"?
I'm just curious what the more progressive people on this forum(Of which there seems to be many) think about it.
Sep 17th, 2009 06:05 PM
botankus
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I haven't read it. Thanks for asking, though.
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Sep 17th, 2009 06:10 PM
Bardock42
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Dr Will Hatch
I'm just curious what the more progressive people on this forum(Of which there seems to be many) think about it.
Haven't read it, tell more.
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Sep 17th, 2009 09:16 PM
BruceSkywalker
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who is the author?
whats it about?
should i wait for the movie starring jennifer aniston??
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Sep 17th, 2009 09:39 PM
dadudemon
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Bardock42
Haven't read it, tell more.
Google is your friend.
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Sep 17th, 2009 09:40 PM
Bardock42
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by dadudemon
Google is your friend.
Could, want him to tell more.
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Sep 17th, 2009 09:41 PM
dadudemon
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Bardock42
Could, want him to tell more.
If you want to know more:
quote: (post ) Originally posted by dadudemon
Google is your friend.
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Sep 17th, 2009 09:43 PM
Bardock42
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by dadudemon
If you want to know more:
Don't, want him to tell me.
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Sep 17th, 2009 09:43 PM
dadudemon
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Bardock42
Don't, want him to tell me.
So, you don't want to know more, you want to troll? Why?
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Sep 17th, 2009 09:49 PM
Dr Will Hatch
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Bardock42
Could, want him to tell more.
The Hatch's Notes version:
Julian West is a famous man living in 1887 Boston. He undergoes hypnosis and wakes up in the year 2000. He encounters a utopian society where everything is perfectly orderly and boring. All markets have been removed from society and everything is centrally planned by a few overarching residents deemed to be worthy. The civil servants only recieve minimal pay, but consider the social welfare to be of the utmost importance. West sees Boston's urban planning from atop a skyscraper and sees perfect order and harmony where there was none in his lifetime. There are regular public marches, the mandatory retirement age is 45, and the idea of a private life is considered apocrypha. Everyone gets the exact same amount of pay each year.
It's kind of hard to describe the impact of the book without reading it first. I made the thread because the general political bent here seems to be left. And a leftist can't really justify their beliefs without avoiding the fact that progressive ideas by necessity need coercion to do anything meaningful.
Sep 17th, 2009 09:55 PM
Bardock42
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Dr Will Hatch
The Hatch's Notes version:
Julian West is a famous man living in 1887 Boston. He undergoes hypnosis and wakes up in the year 2000. He encounters a utopian society where everything is perfectly orderly and boring. All markets have been removed from society and everything is centrally planned by a few overarching residents deemed to be worthy. The civil servants only recieve minimal pay, but consider the social welfare to be of the utmost importance. West sees Boston's urban planning from atop a skyscraper and sees perfect order and harmony where there was none in his lifetime. There are regular public marches, the mandatory retirement age is 45, and the idea of a private life is considered apocrypha. Everyone gets the exact same amount of pay each year.
It's kind of hard to describe the impact of the book without reading it first. I made the thread because the general political bent here seems to be left. And a leftist can't really justify their beliefs without avoiding the fact that progressive ideas by necessity need coercion to do anything meaningful.
Ah, so that's a utopian novel describing communism (or some sort of socialism) as ideal? And I am not sure what you mean with progressive minded people, do you mean the social democrats we have? Or the libertarians? Or what?
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Sep 17th, 2009 10:08 PM
Bardock42
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by dadudemon
So, you don't want to know more, you want to troll? Why?
I just want him to tell me!!!!!!! Stop trolling me.
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Sep 17th, 2009 10:09 PM
King Kandy
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Dr Will Hatch
And a leftist can't really justify their beliefs without avoiding the fact that progressive ideas by necessity need coercion to do anything meaningful.
What? Since when?
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Sep 17th, 2009 10:14 PM
dadudemon
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Bardock42
I just want him to tell me!!!!!!! Stop trolling me.
Calling out the tactics of a troll is hardly trolling. Nice try, though.
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Sep 17th, 2009 10:17 PM
Robtard
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by dadudemon
Calling out the tactics of a troll is hardly trolling. Nice try, though.
Dude, someone posting "have you read this book?" and someone in reply saying "no, what is is about?" is not trolling, so stop being a dumbass.
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Sep 17th, 2009 10:26 PM
dadudemon
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Robtard
Dude, someone posting "have you read this book?" and someone in reply saying "no, what is is about?" is not trolling, so stop being a dumbass.
That'd be true if that' what he wanted.
However, that's not what he wants. He wants to troll a newb. Something not new to Bardock's actions.
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Sep 17th, 2009 10:36 PM
Robtard
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by dadudemon
That'd be true if that' what he wanted.
However, that's not what he wants. He wants to troll a newb. Something not new to Bardock's actions.
I think your previous:
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over Bardock42's post yesterday is causing you to reach now, German asked a simple question, nothing more.
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Sep 17th, 2009 10:40 PM
dadudemon
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Robtard
I think your previous:
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over Bardock42's post yesterday is causing you to reach now, German asked a simple question, nothing more.
That has nothing to do with it. If you must know, I apologized to Bardock in IM about getting pissed over it.
However, I'm giving Bardock a hard time about what he's doing because we both know he's just trying to get under that poster's skin, as he does. What he's doing is very typical behavior on his part. WHY does he need to know what the book is about from THAT particular poster? hmm?
You think that's air you're breathing?
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Sep 17th, 2009 10:44 PM
Robtard
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Because the thread starter read the book, so he'd probably be qualified to tell Bardock the basics of it.
Yes; it is 78.08% nitrogen, 20.95% oxygen, 0.93% argon, 0.038% carbon dioxide, and trace amounts of other gases.
Next question(s).
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Sep 17th, 2009 10:47 PM
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