Yeah...that makes no sense. You migth as well say Bartz could beat Cloud because Neo Exdeath was gonna destroy existence and all Seph could do was sort of destroy the planet.
__________________ Earth is a beautiful addition to the Galaxy...but an even finer accessory on the hand of a God.
Other than that, all signs point to him being stronger than Judge Bergan who had inhuman strength (Squall doesn't) He also wields two weapons which would be more than Squall and his one gunblade could handle.
__________________ Earth is a beautiful addition to the Galaxy...but an even finer accessory on the hand of a God.
Wow... We have an Squall hater here, it doesn't matter if you insult a character, that won't change the fact that someone is stronger than another. Leave your spite out of this debate.
Lmao.
Like saying that would make a character automatically better than another.
Sure... Hey, the perfect, strong and awesome, protagonist of Final Fantasy XII Vs. the weak, crybaby protagonist from Final Fantasy X... Does that make sense to you? Lol.
This is the scene when you must provide your evidence and thoughs.
Gabranth? Well yeah also Squall, Cloud, Terra, Zidane, and more than him, so?
WTF.
So Judge Bergan is super-human? Lmao? So Gabranth is stronger than someone that is super-human? Rofl?
GFs says hi.
And Cloud wields 10,000 swords and he's owned by a guy who only wields a Katana.
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it's not against any rules so stop acting like you can tell someone what to do.
I have.
Squall is everything that is not awesome.
Yes. Seems simple enough to understand. Bergan's even stated to have inhuman strength.
No they don't. They say nothing because you can't quantify Squall's strength. You're going off a vague quote and nothing more.
And neither of those characters have anything to do with this battle. Squall hasn't shown the capacity to deal with a person who wields duel weapons therefore he's outmatched. Very simple.
__________________ Earth is a beautiful addition to the Galaxy...but an even finer accessory on the hand of a God.
Which is the point of me posting that. You're saying that Squall couldn't handle a dual wielder just because he hasn't "shown the capacity" to do so. Seems like a ridiculous statement to me. Truthfully I don't care about any FF character except Bartz, but I think you need to lrn2debate.
I actually like Gabranth more than Squall but I still see him losing this. Even though it would appear that Gabranth has more battle experience due to him being older than Squall, I'm still not sure if that would measure up to some of the apparent skill the characters in VIII have.
Who said anything about 'rules`?
Bashing one character to make the other one look good, it doesn't work, I'm afraid. I think you should know this already. It doesn't matter whom you like more here, you know.
Huh?
And because you don't like him, that means he's weak? Lol.
Oh, so Bergan is super-human? You should bring that quote. What makes him super-human? Where is stated? From where you got that Gabranth can beat a super-human?
Denying facts, won't make them go away.
Lmao. Are you okay, dude? GFs provides super-human abilities, what are you trying to say with: 'you can't quantify' ? Can you 'quantify' 'Bergan's super-human' abilities? We can't quantify anyone's strengths. In fact if the GFs provides super-human abilities, it is because they do, it doesn't matter how 'much' power they got. Now, what about Bergan? How he is super-human? Please tell me because this is something new to me.
What vague quote? The only quote I want to see is the one from Bergan being 'super-human' as you suggest.
You say this as defense because IT REFUTES your argument. That example destroyed your whole pathetic argument.
This is one of the most ridiculous posts ever. Congratulations.
So EVERY character that hasn't shown capacities to deal with a person that wields two swords, it means they are outmatched? It means they can't fight back? So, this includes almost all of the swordsmen from the Final Fantasy series, if we follow your stupid logic, of course. Do me a favor and learn how to debate and to accept your mistakes, you arguments are a bunch of retarded logic, thanks.
You told me to leave my spite out of this debate. So I said no, I wouldn't.
You can't leave your bias out of anything. You're a Squall fana nd that will always be part of the debate as well.
I do know that. I was simply saying my opinion.
No. his lack of feats make him weak.
Skip to 1:30.
You have no facts.
Very easily. A character lifts a big rock. We quantify hai sstrength based on how big the rock was. He could lift sya a ton because the rock weighed a ton.
It's not very complicated.a
You have absolutely zero showings from Squall of superhuman strength. So you have only vague quotes that GFs allow superhuman abilities.
You have no argument. You're a fanboy with vague quotes and nothing more. You have repeatedly ine very Squall thread failed to produce any feats or showings for him.
You're the one who knows nothing of debating Mr. "I don't have ANY PROOF AT ALL but still Squall wins."
If Squall hasn't shown the skill to deal with people with two weapons, he can't. Your "logic" is so fragile and idiotic that I might as well say "well sure Gabranth hasn't show h ecould shoot lightning bolts out his ass but that doesn't mean he can't."
Or how about
"Sure Squall hasn't shown mastery of Kung Fu but that doesn't mean he isn't an expert at it."
Feats matter. Facts matter. If a character hasn't been shown to have a skill, he doesn't have it.
That's how debating works, you n00b.
__________________ Earth is a beautiful addition to the Galaxy...but an even finer accessory on the hand of a God.
Oh, but YOU are the one bashing a character here, not me, despite that Squall is my favorite character I am not bashing Grabranth. Because it won't change anything, you know. Insulting a character won't make the other one look better.
Good, good. Now tell me what Squall supposedly 'lacks' ?
Why he is weak?
I did and I remember that scene.
Where it says he's super-human? Where is stated? Just because Drace says 'inhuman...' ? He wasn't using a Manufacted Nethicite there? Vaan threw Vayne even worst and he wasn't even using anything, just a sword and pure strength, so Vaan is super-human? Sorry, this shows nothing about Gabranth, I never saw Gabranth defeating Bergan anyway. You can suppose he's stronger than him, but that's all you got.
Facts about what? I didn't say anything, I'm just looking at your 'facts' (which by the way they aren't). What GABRANTH can do? It doesn't matter if Vayne blows the planet, I care about Gabranth here. I need to know Gabranth's feats. He can fight with two swords and I suppose he is experienced (I am even giving you feats for him), yes, and...?
I hardly understand what you typed here.
Let's see... What a rock have to do with anything? Don't misunderstand, I'm trying to understand your points here, but you can't explain them very well. What Final Fantasy character can lift a giant rock? I don't know anyone. Gabranth can lift giant rocks? That's what you're trying to say?
Zero showings? Squall defeated Ultimecia's minions without GFs, Magic, without anything, just with his skills, that's pretty awesome, imagine with GFs equipped. Those 'vague' quotes are facts from the game, if the GFs provides above-human (super-human) abilities, it is because they do. It's like asking how much power or what kind of abilities those Judges receives for using a Manufacted Nethicite. You don't know. The fact that they do receive special powers.
The example I gave you, refuted your argument, simple as that.
I am sorry.
Lol, I didn't said Squall wins... You claimed Gabranth's absolute victory in this thread with retarded logic. I'm just proving you wrong, that's all.
I can't believe you are defending such logic. Can I know what kind of logic is this? So, Gabranth is stronger than anyone that hasn't shown the skill to deal with people with two weapons? That literally includes almost any Final Fantasy warriors, Garland, Cloud, Zidane, Terra, Cecil, Bartz. What the hell? So I wield two swords and you just one, therefore I win? No, just no.
What you're saying here is that a person that wields two swords will be always stronger/superior than one that wields just one sword...? Sorry, that is a faulty logic.
Indeed. Indeed. You don't need a 'specifically' skill to be able to fight someone that carries two swords though. Hell, I don't even know what are Gabranth's feats, you have named nothing, still you are defending faulty logic, I can't believe it.
Then you have a very wrong idea in how debate works, I'm afraid...
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Just because Drace says 'inhuman...' ? He wasn't using a Manufacted Nethicite there? Vaan threw Vayne even worst and he wasn't even using anything, just a sword and pure strength, so Vaan is super-human? Sorry, this shows nothing about Gabranth, I never saw Gabranth defeating Bergan anyway. You can suppose he's stronger than him, but that's all you got.
