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Demitri Maximoff vs Dante/Alex Mercer/Kratos
Demitri at full power goes up against DMC4 Dante, Alex Mercer, and Kratos.
Dante is in devil trigger and has all his weapons and styles and Alex has all of his abilities from Prototype. Kratos has blades of chaos and the gauntlet of zeus.
(people say that Demitri is so uber powerful that he can beat Dante, Vergil, and Sparda, so I decided to throw things up a bit with this.)
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I just read about Demitri in the Darkstalkers wiki and I must say I'm not impressed. Creating a field to cover the castle from sun light, making people his slaves, consuming a cosmetic god so what? Kratos kills gods all the time so what makes Pyron higher than Olympian Gods?
Dante is good, but he has nothing on Demitri in terms of strength or overall speed. And Dante has never faced anyone with Demitri's powers like that. Demitri tanked a time/space reality warping attack and lived. While Dante tanks bullets and slashes... Uh, yeah, I think Demitri has the better durability feat.
Alex Mercer has regen, but absolutely 0% defence against magic, his soul gets torn to peices.
Kratos has the highest chance of winning due to magical defences and implements, but as stated earlier, None of these guys can dish out anything of the scale Demitri has tanked before, and he can now deal with planet busting scale attacks himself, so really, whats Kratos going to do? Even medusa's gaze may not work against someone who can tank reality warping or cosmic levels of power... It's simply in another league.
More like overrated and given non-existant feats (just ask where the feats are from and ask for purely canon sources, as you will be given none), though getting into that has gotten boring.
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If he defeated him as human-sized Pyron which IIRC is correct, this is when Pyron "downgraded" himself so to speak (in other words, this is not when he can wear planets as "jewlery"). The other fact you're forgetting is that Pyron, IIRC canonically has never become as large as in....any of the scans you see him in. That's right, comics, endings....oh wait that's about it, in comics and in endings (endings that are actually a couple of shitty pixelated scans), both which IIRC are non-canon since no official source from Capcom (which can either be a game booklet, official game guide, info or footage from the game itself or something that is from the makers of DS and not just some random posting/blog/whatever that has a domain of "capcom.com") says Pyron's endings are canon (at least this has never been shown here or to me, good luck finding it from Pyron's supporters) or that UDON makes anything canon for the series. You will probably find nothing other than said fan posting or blog that has the domain of "capcom.com", or something similar stating otherwise. However there is a FAQ which ironically some DS supporters use to their advantage in some cases, even though it disagrees with the notion UDON makes anything canon for Capcom (so they don't use this when arguing UDON makes canon material) Of course this is demonstrating either the stupidity or hypocrisy of said DS supporters.
Last edited by FWahMaN on Dec 10th, 2009 at 06:46 AM
Not saying UDON material can't be used since it's completely up to the match maker (which by the looks of it, will probably not allow it that is if he's even coming back) but as far as it being canon, fans can scream to their hearts' content. Until I see official evidence on the table, it's still a losing battle.
That UDON officiality proof has been posted an interminable amount of times throughout the last 2 years across literally dozens, if not hundreds of threads. I do not see the need to re-post common knowlege again. However, I will state this, it has been stated that only the ABILITIES that where displayed are official, not the storyline itself.
I think its hinted that even with the power of Pyron, it was still not enough to remove his weakness to sunlight and give him ultimate power....infact does he show anything at all with this power? is it even canon that he gains power from it? or that he just absorbs it?
Any of these 3 could give Demitri a good fight.
I would guess a fully formed Morrigan/lilith or maybe Jedah
I dont remember it being proven, only stated constantly by fans. It makes no sense to claim the abilities are canon, the comics are either canon or their not, it makes no sense that the content in some comics is canon just because the fans want it to be.
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Stated from Street Fighter Eternal. The exact nature of the interview (I don't have the book with me as I am at work) was something along the lines that if Street Fighter started out as a comic, then the abilities would be as depicted in the UDON Comics. They made the same statement earlier though reguarding the Anime films and series, so I take it as a grain of salt, however, the fact that such has been stated means that the feats in direct correlation to those pictures are also represented. (IE, Bison able to go nuclear from a powerup very early on, Charlie able to collapse a cliff face with Somersault Justice... ect, ect)
However, this is far from a license to take every UDON depiction at face value, for example, Shin Gouki busting a Meteor in his CFE ending is NOT an official depiction.
So what are you saying exactly? the interview on Udon comics implies that it could be canon? but not directly stated i.e "The Udon comics do show canon abilities"?
It seems to me that the truth behind these comics and certainly the endings are very unclear, no true fact at all which is very very unsteady ground in a debate.
No.... Re-read what I said, I stated that the storyline is not canon, but the abilities shown are. just because the story itself is not official by Capcom, Capcoms interview in SFE stated that the abilities represented are true.
I did re-read it, you did not claim that you actually have proof of Udon comics depicting Darkstalkers characters with true abilities. You seem to be talking about Street fighter.......just because something is said about Street fighter, does not mean its the same for any other fiction represented in Udon, furthermore an official representing Darkstalkers or Street fighter claiming how Udon comics are good at representing their characters does not automatically make Udon comics abilities canon unless you can show the "official" statement.
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