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The Dnepropetrovsk Maniacs



In short, three teens brutally captured, tortured and murdered 21 people. They recorded it, and did it as a hobby. The video's have just surfaced on the internet of one of their killings involving a hammer and screwdriver. I warn you, the video is without a doubt the worst thing I have ever witnessed on the internet. Take caution before looking for it.

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The suspects' cell phones and personal computers contained multiple video recordings of the murders taking place. One full video was leaked to the Internet, showing the murder of 48-year-old Sergei Yatzenko. He is seen laying on his back in a wooded area, and is struck repeatedly in the face with a hammer held inside a plastic bag. One of the attackers pokes out Yatzenko's eyes, and stabs him in the abdomen with a screwdriver. Yatzenko is then struck with the hammer in order to ensure that he is dead. The attack lasts over four minutes, during which the victim lapses in and out of consciousness. One of the murderers can be seen smiling towards the camera during the video.[39] The murderers walk back to their car, showing that the crime took place only a few feet away from the side of a road, next to their parked car. They discuss the murder calmly, expressing mild amazement that the victim was still breathing after a screwdriver was plunged into his exposed brain. The suspects then wash their hands and the hammer with a water bottle, and begin to laugh. Only two suspects appear to be present in the video, with one always behind the camera.[40]

The suspects were also found in possession of multiple photographs showing them attending funerals of the victims. They can be seen smiling and "flipping off" the coffins and gravestones. Evidence of animal abuse was also shown in court, with the suspects posing alongside mutilated animal corpses.[41]

The photographic and video evidence was shown in court on October 29, 2008, as part of a larger presentation of over 300 photographs and two videos.[25] The defense objected to the presentation, claiming that the evidence was obtained illegally, and that the subjects shown in the video and the photographs were digitally altered to resemble the suspects. When Suprunyuck and Sayenko were asked if they recognized the people in the photographs, they replied that they did not. Judge Ivan Senchenko responded by stating "You are not blind."[42] Valery Voronyuck, an expert on film and video editing, testified to the court that in his view the video material had not been faked or altered in any way.[3] The court rejected all the objections raised by the defense, and accepted the prosecution's argument that the material was genuine, and showed the suspects in the act of murdering their victims.[25]


Was life sentence a fair judgment? Discuss.



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Oh God, this video is the most disgusting thing I've ever seen, it's sick. A life sentence seems warranted.


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Oh God, this video is the most disgusting thing I've ever seen, it's sick. A life sentence seems warranted.


It's time like this that make me believe that our idea of law is flawed. Where is the justice in a life sentence? I can't see it.


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It's time like this that make me believe that our idea of law is flawed. Where is the justice in a life sentence? I can't see it.


Permanent loss of freedom is generally seen as something you don't want. Hobbling the killers and forcing them into some sort of blood sport would be more satisfying but at the same time it could romanticize them.


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It's time like this that make me believe that our idea of law is flawed. Where is the justice in a life sentence? I can't see it.


I don't believe in an eye for an eye (yikes). They have obvious a severe disregard for other humans and should not be exposed to society under any circumstances, I find it wrong however to take their life I don't think it should be in the power of the system to kill anyone.


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Was life sentence a fair judgment? Discuss.





No, they should be sent to medical research labs so we can save a few innocent rats who's lives are worth more than theirs.


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I don't believe in an eye for an eye (yikes). They have obvious a severe disregard for other humans and should not be exposed to society under any circumstances, I find it wrong however to take their life I don't think it should be in the power of the system to kill anyone.


I still just can't find the justice in that. They knew that it would happen and were willing to be taken from society. It's not just.


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I still just can't find the justice in that. They knew that it would happen and were willing to be taken from society. It's not just.
What do you think would be just?


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****in' hell. That was ****in' brutal. That's right up there with the beheading videos. Probably worse actually.


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What do you think would be just?


That's the real question. Other then death and imprisonment... What else is there really to do? What is the in between? There must be something harsher then imprisonment but less then death.


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I probably wont watch this video, but I also don't believe in taking another humans life.

Stickem in a cell and let them be stuck in their sick and twisted mind till they take their last breath.

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That's the real question. Other then death and imprisonment... What else is there really to do? What is the in between? There must be something harsher then imprisonment but less then death.
You might as well flat out say you want to torture them.


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I probably wont watch this video, but I also don't believe in taking another humans life.

Stickem in a cell and let them be stuck in their sick and twisted mind till they take their last breath.

You might as well flat out say you want to torture them.


No, there must be something else. Really.

I just don't find sticking them in a cell all that fair to the 21 families of the victims.


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you know ive always interpreted the general meaning behind prison/social discipline as a means to prevent unsavory members of society from disrupting the lives of other people weither it be stealing or hurting or injuring or any other form of disturbing the peace. executing people is a solution for those who are too sick to be educated whereas imprisonment is a method of reeducating offenders whilst keeping them away from the public.

that being the case i think the point of social discipline isnt to discipline a criminal simply for the sake of doing so, rather every punishment is performed with the welfare of the public in mind. so if thats true than whats the big deal about a life sentence or death sentence? either way theyre no longer a threat to the public so the powers that be are doing their job, no?


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Re: The Dnepropetrovsk Maniacs

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In short, three teens brutally captured, tortured and murdered 21 people. They recorded it, and did it as a hobby. The video's have just surfaced on the internet of one of their killings involving a hammer and screwdriver. I warn you, the video is without a doubt the worst thing I have ever witnessed on the internet. Take caution before looking for it.

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(Check the wiki out, It does the best explination of the hold ordeal)



Was life sentence a fair judgment? Discuss.





Yeah, but I would have prefer them in the gas chamber or lethal injection.

These videos are as evil as the Nazi beheading guy.


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No, there must be something else. Really.

I just don't find sticking them in a cell all that fair to the 21 families of the victims.


Let the families decide their fate?


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Let the families decide their fate?


That's not a different option, that's just a different way at arriving at one of the options.


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Let the families decide their fate?


Possibly.

I just believe that there needs to be some sort of furthered discipline added to the life sentence. Not torture, but something.

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you know ive always interpreted the general meaning behind prison/social discipline as a means to prevent unsavory members of society from disrupting the lives of other people weither it be stealing or hurting or injuring or any other form of disturbing the peace. executing people is a solution for those who are too sick to be educated whereas imprisonment is a method of reeducating offenders whilst keeping them away from the public.

that being the case i think the point of social discipline isnt to discipline a criminal simply for the sake of doing so, rather every punishment is performed with the welfare of the public in mind. so if thats true than whats the big deal about a life sentence or death sentence? either way theyre no longer a threat to the public so the powers that be are doing their job, no?


Good point.


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you know ive always interpreted the general meaning behind prison/social discipline as a means to prevent unsavory members of society from disrupting the lives of other people weither it be stealing or hurting or injuring or any other form of disturbing the peace. executing people is a solution for those who are too sick to be educated whereas imprisonment is a method of reeducating offenders whilst keeping them away from the public.

that being the case i think the point of social discipline isnt to discipline a criminal simply for the sake of doing so, rather every punishment is performed with the welfare of the public in mind. so if thats true than whats the big deal about a life sentence or death sentence? either way theyre no longer a threat to the public so the powers that be are doing their job, no?


I share that POV mostly, I am also not a big fan of the "punishment" angle of the legal system.


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Considering they're young and will spend a large portion of their lives being anal-puppets, the life sentence seems alright.

But if the Ukraine tortured and killed them, I'd LoL.


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Vinny just wants some justice. Its like he's batman. There's really nothing much else we can do.


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