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are kryptonians now dc's version of hand ninjas?

seriously. seemed like everyone and their mom was owning the crap out of them. i mean, why the hell is the world at large all worried about superman going rogue if they literally fought off an ARMY of kryptonians? and apparently in about 100 minutes to boot. seemed as if the amazons did better when they invaded. freaking stupid IMO.


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Nope, DC already has Hand Ninjas. They're called Parademons.


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seriously. seemed like everyone and their mom was owning the crap out of them. i mean, why the hell is the world at large all worried about superman going rogue if they literally fought off an ARMY of kryptonians? and apparently in about 100 minutes to boot. seemed as if the amazons did better when they invaded. freaking stupid IMO.
I do feel they're brought down to Parademons status during War of the Supermens.

It was all to rushed and of course, the damn writers!


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Well Non did pretty much solo the JLA


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Because they had to lose at the end of the story but in a vs. thread they don't have to lose.


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Well Non did pretty much solo the JLA

Non attacked the JLA solo. Therefore he wasn't impaired by the Inverse Ninja Ratio Principle. Had he arrived with ten other Kryptonians the JLA would have shit-stomped him and his escorts.

Of course its worth noting that the current JLA is a joke compared to the original Big Seven.


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the thing is, they were getting their asses kicked by everyone all throughout the story. it wasn't just at the ending. and the sheer stomping that they got in the ending was too severe to ignore. i mean, losing in about 100 minutes? seriously? yeah, non soloed the jla, but you gotta look at who was on that team, as someone else said, they were nowhere no as good as the big seven. again, it is absolutely retarded that governments fear supes if they can repel an entire army of his race in about 100 minutes.


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I'm guessing maybe most of them weren't very trained fighters?


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I'm guessing maybe most of them weren't very trained fighters?

They also didn't have nearly as much exposure to the sun as Superman or time to learn how to use their powers. Comparing Superman to the rest of New Krypton (save perhaps a few of the elites like Zod, Ursa, and Non) is like comparing regular humans to Batman.


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They also didn't have nearly as much exposure to the sun as Superman or time to learn how to use their powers. Comparing Superman to the rest of New Krypton (save perhaps a few of the elites like Zod, Ursa, and Non) is like comparing regular humans to Batman.


I've never read any rule saying it takes years of sun buildup for the powers to appear. Especially since Zod & his crew seemed to power up so quickly. And their distant cousins the Daxamites start displaying powers very quickly in Earth's system.


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I've never read any rule saying it takes years of sun buildup for the powers to appear. Especially since Zod & his crew seemed to power up so quickly. And their distant cousins the Daxamites start displaying powers very quickly in Earth's system.

Superman's power creep has always been of a product of long term yellow sun exposure

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Non attacked the JLA solo. Therefore he wasn't impaired by the Inverse Ninja Ratio Principle. Had he arrived with ten other Kryptonians the JLA would have shit-stomped him and his escorts.

Of course its worth noting that the current JLA is a joke compared to the original Big Seven.


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yes, supes is more powerful than any one kryptonian, but is he more powerful than a whole army? i don't think so. and that army got crushed. freaking stupid. you can try to justify it any way you want, but it boils down to crappy writing. the whole new krypton thing was a stupid idea imo.


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do you guys think the krytonians are closer to Superman than the asgardians to Thor

either way kryptonians own asgardians


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do you guys think the krytonians are closer to Superman than the asgardians to Thor

either way kryptonians own asgardians


There is only a handful in Asgard that are at Thor's level or beyond it.

Kryptonians should become as powerful as Superman himself is.


Then again, Asgardians don't have the conventional weaknesses of Kryptonians.


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There is only a handful in Asgard that are at Thor's level or beyond it.

Kryptonians should become as powerful as Superman himself is.


Then again, Asgardians don't have the conventional weaknesses of Kryptonians.


Superman is better than the typical krytonian , he's the descendant of rao or summin


if kryptonians invaded asgard, asgard would be ruined , i mean most of them are what class 25/30 according to OHTOMU

and each krptonian is near or FTL with strength class 100 and on par to thor


i think krptoninian power level is relate to physique and duration of absorbtion

perhaps a 6ft 3 fat krytonian with equal duration of energy absorbtion as SM may be stronger than him

that wopdul expalin non being more powerful than most of his race


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Superman is better than the typical krytonian , he's the descendant of rao or summin


if kryptonians invaded asgard, asgard would be ruined , i mean most of them are what class 25/30 according to OHTOMU

and each krptonian is near or FTL with strength class 100 and on par to thor


i think krptoninian power level is relate to physique and duration of absorbtion

perhaps a 6ft 3 fat krytonian with equal duration of energy absorbtion as SM may be stronger than him

that wopdul expalin non being more powerful than most of his race


We've seen both Zod & Non own Superman in fights, after they've been exposed to yellow sunlight for only a short time - see Johns & Donner's Son Of Krypton storyline. Now, they fight more ruthlessly, so it's part of it...still, Superman's lineage has no bearing on his level of might.

Putting aside giving Asgardians weapons from Lex Luthor (full of goodies that include red sun radiation, multiple forms of kryptonite), the citizens of Asgard could also all be drawn into the Destroyer armour (as Odin did against the last judgment of the Celestials, 30 years ago), growing that armour to a height of 2000 feet. Let's see how they fare against that - it would be like facing the Anti-Monitor.


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Now, they fight more ruthlessly, so it's part of it.


And like we saw with Kara's first arrival Superman holds back by habit more than most kryptonians so can appear at a glance to be less strong.


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