A friend recently told me that "every scientific and psychological organization in the nation recognizes that [people] are born homosexual." A Google search gives me conflicted results and the scientific angle is well out of my wheelhouse. For those among us who are more versed in both fields than the layman, is this claim true?
Not interested in the arguments about homosexuality, I'm interested in whether or not there has been consensus by scientists and psychologists on the origins of it.
No one is born gay.* It's a myth perpetuated by idiots.
If you ever read about someone purporting, in a serious manner, "the gay gene", immediately stop listening to them because they have no idea what they are talking about.
*Before everyone starts shitting themselves, no one is born straight, as well.
its fun to deflect from the obvious topic, which is "homosexuality: chosen or genetic". too bad there isnt a thread on...oh wait a min.
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No one is born gay. You can be raised by homosexuals to be gay via adoption or a parent divorcee seeing other people. That or persuaded by political influence that keeps pressing homosexuality on everybody via mixed media.
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not sure if this is a genetic thing, but i have heard/read on several occasions this idea about a flush of testosterone (or lack thereof) in the womb being responsible.
not sure how solid the theory is. it seems reasonable to me, though i do wonder how it could account for something like bisexuals or the fact that some gay males are masculine and others are feminine (and same with lesbians).
when I was young I use to tell myself I was going to be gay because I hated my father and this would surely piss him off, now I cant remember if that was a dream or if it was reality.
Short story, no. No one is born gay, straight, bi, etc. etc. etc.
I have never seen a newborn baby have the urge to **** another of the same sex, opposite sex, have an orgy, etc. bla bla bla.
It is going too far to say "people are born gay". No, they are not. "People are born with some genetic factors that may lead to homosexuality" would be more correct.
I do not know about this. I do not like the way he worded that question so I do not want to answer it with a, "yes".
Not sure about a "gay gene", but what makes the most sense to me, homosexuals are born with a mental disorder/imbalance* of some level which leads them more inclined to their own sex. I'd also say environmental factors do factor in with that, can say how much though.
That at least makes more sense than say a man being born hetero and just deciding "I'm going to be attracted to cock"; especially considering the massive negative views most societies have towards homosexuality.
*Before anyone flips out, I don't mean "disorder/imbalance" in a sense where there's something negatively wrong with them, but in an perpetuating the species sense it doesn't follow.
So many lesbians turn out to be confused girls who either-
-Where molested at a young age and hated men and chose women as their choice of sexual exploration in defiance.
-Couldn't get a decent man because of their insecurities or social situation so chose to take women into their sexuality.
-Only had women in their circle of influence so explored them sexually.
-Or worse case, manipulated by the above into being a lesbian because they had forceful influences in their peers to make them assume they were gay.
-And then you have those girls who only find other girls attractive.
Now I can't count the amount of times on my hand that I haven't witnessed a long term lesbian suddenly decide that they were suddenly interested in men and gone into a long term relationship with one. Get married and have kids. The whole nine yards. It's laughable.
It's this reason men often mock the whole lesbian lifestyle. Because so often girls go the other way then back again.
Then you have to explore the whole male prison scenario. But that's another bag. The male gay situation I have witnessed amongst friends is that even though they find they female body gorgeous they don't find it attractive.....
I have male gay friends that can't watch gay porn. They have to watch straight porn. Which is interesting.
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I agree with that. It could be a timing problem in the womb. If testosterone is not at the right level, at the right time, the fetus could end up as a gay individual at a later time.
Because if we're just using anecdotal evidence, I know of a few women who were married for years, had children and then divorced their husbands due to finally facing that they were gay and really always have been.