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Hulk with flight
If Hulk had the ability to fly, do you think he could pull planets?
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Mar 16th, 2011 08:45 PM
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Mar 16th, 2011 08:52 PM
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Lobo doesn't need flight to pull Stellar Masses. But then he's Lobo.
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Mar 16th, 2011 08:53 PM
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honestly, pulling planets is a ridiculously stupid feat written by writers who have no idea the power necessary to do so.
no one below galactus level should have any shot of pulling any planet
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Mar 16th, 2011 08:56 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Starscream M
honestly, pulling planets is a ridiculously stupid feat written by writers who have no idea the power necessary to do so.
no one below galactus level should have any shot of pulling any planet
I agree with this 100%.
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Mar 16th, 2011 09:00 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Starscream M
honestly, pulling planets is a ridiculously stupid feat written by writers who have no idea the power necessary to do so.
no one below galactus level should have any shot of pulling any planet
Considering heralds consistently fly near or into Black holes, and the gravity in a black hole is so much greater then that out star that its not even funny, means its not that far-fetched for heralds to move planets.
But I still stand by the notion that things like Black Holes get downplayed. I mean surfer is knocked on his ass by rhino(even though it did no real damage) but he doesn't even feel strain flying through a Black Hole bigger then galactus?
Or superman holding a black hole. I mean even a mini one should be waaaaaaaaaaaaaay more then many things he has been hurt by.
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Mar 16th, 2011 09:03 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Starscream M
honestly, pulling planets is a ridiculously stupid feat written by writers who have no idea the power necessary to do so.
no one below galactus level should have any shot of pulling any planet
quote: (post ) Originally posted by carver9
I agree with this 100%.
Sounds like an incredibly arbitrary way of viewing comics. If you don't like characters pulling planets then you chose the wrong medium.
If you object on a "scientific" basis then the biggest problem isn't the power requirement so much as planets aren't cohesive enough to be pushed or pulled the way its depicted in comics. If you tried pushing the Earth the force would just break it rather than moving it smoothly.
But once more, its comics.
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Mar 16th, 2011 09:05 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Black bolt z
Considering heralds consistently fly near or into Black holes, and the gravity in a black hole is so much greater then that out star that its not even funny, means its not that far-fetched for heralds to move planets.
But I still stand by the notion that things like Black Holes get downplayed. I mean surfer is knocked on his ass by rhino(even though it did no real damage) but he doesn't even feel strain flying through a Black Hole bigger then galactus?
Or superman holding a black hole. I mean even a mini one should be waaaaaaaaaaaaaay more then many things he has been hurt by.
blackholes are also severely underwritten
its almost a joke
as you said, the power it takes to resist the force of a black hole is astronomical, far beyond that of any heralds
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Mar 16th, 2011 09:06 PM
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yea blackholes are totally sold short
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Is a Herald flying through a blackhole PIS?
Or is the same Herald being hurt--no matter how little--by a building wrecker(or rather ANYONE below Skyfather) like Rhino PIS?
Which do you discard?
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by CosmicComet
Is a Herald flying through a blackhole PIS?
Or is the same Herald being hurt (no matter how little) by a building wrecker(or rather ANYONE below Skyfather) like Rhino PIS?
Which do you discard?
this is the whole point Omega Vision missed
its not that someone surviving a blackhole or pulling a planet is BS, but the inconsistency that is bs
if you survive a blackhole, than you should be able to take hits from other heralds like pillows
if you can pull a planet, then you should be able to lift mountains with your pinky
consistency, or lack thereof is what makes those feats bogus imo
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Mar 16th, 2011 09:14 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Sr J-Bieb
Yes. Look at how big Hulk is. Now imagine him with the ability to fly.
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Starscream M
this is the whole point Omega Vision missed
its not that someone surviving a blackhole or pulling a planet is BS, but the inconsistency that is bs
if you survive a blackhole, than you should be able to take hits from other heralds like pillows
if you can pull a planet, then you should be able to lift mountains with your pinky
consistency, or lack thereof is what makes those feats bogus imo
And because they don't consistently take shots from heralds like pillows then its just due to the fact that Writers don't know jack shit about what they are writing about.
At least with people like thanos the writers make natural elements to their full extent.
Like when surfer created black holes thanos didn't want to go near them for fear of damage. Thanos was also killed by anti-matter. This is what should happen by either of these to any herald.
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Mar 16th, 2011 09:17 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by carver9
If Hulk had the ability to fly, do you think he could pull planets?
He may be able to pull 1/3 a planet's weight.
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Mar 16th, 2011 09:19 PM
CosmicComet
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anyway, breaking planets is far more fun/impressive.
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carver9
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by CosmicComet
anyway, breaking planets is far more fun/impressive.
I agree with this and their are very few who has done this, especially on a physical level.
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Mar 16th, 2011 09:24 PM
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he is strong enough to exert the force necessary to break the inertia of a planet's mass, sure. imagining his physical strengh would be translated into propulsion force and the planet held together, he could do it.
still, flying heralds should just go through planets when atempting to do this
Mar 16th, 2011 10:11 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Starscream M
honestly, pulling planets is a ridiculously stupid feat written by writers who have no idea the power necessary to do so.
no one below galactus level should have any shot of pulling any planet
EXACTLY
Mar 16th, 2011 10:22 PM
GRIMNIR
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Omega Vision
Sounds like an incredibly arbitrary way of viewing comics. If you don't like characters pulling planets then you chose the wrong medium.
If you object on a "scientific" basis then the biggest problem isn't the power requirement so much as planets aren't cohesive enough to be pushed or pulled the way its depicted in comics. If you tried pushing the Earth the force would just break it rather than moving it smoothly.
But once more, its comics.
just because it is a comic does not mean it has to be full of PIS
i prefer stories where the characters perform superhuman feats that are within the realms of reason, otherwise lose all respect it because major BS
Mar 16th, 2011 10:25 PM
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