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Dr. Solar vs Dr. Manhattan

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In a battle to dictate who is the true master over matter/energy. Jonathan Osterman takes on Philip Solar.

And for Odins sake, NO this is not the Mega Powerful version of Solar that wrecked/created the Multiverse in Valiant/Acclaim run. This is Dark Horse version of Solar.

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Solar.

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If CIS is on, will Dr. Manhattan even fight?

And even if he does, maybe he's supposed to lose, and so he'll lose. That's the problem with his character, he's about as useful as the classic, especially early 90's Guardians of the Universe.

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If CIS is on, will Dr. Manhattan even fight?

And even if he does, maybe he's supposed to lose, and so he'll lose. That's the problem with his character, he's about as useful as the classic, especially early 90's Guardians of the Universe.

Vice versa maybe he's supposed to win so he'll win... btw I'm not saying I think Manhattan wins just that saying something like he see's the future in which he loses is why he'll lose in a forum fight is a stupid argument.

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has the blue ever done anything

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has the blue ever done anything

Not unless he already did. Or didn't. wink

Nov 20th, 2011 11:58 PM

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Manhattan was written wrong. His personality should have been more like Wolverine's.

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What has Solar done to show that it IS POSSIBLE to beat Dr. M?

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Dimensional BFR. Energy absorption.

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Dimensional BFR. Energy absorption.

Dimensional BFR ok
Energy absorption not ok since Dr. M can absorb energy too and duplicate himself an indefinite amount of times.

With that said, Solar wins then.

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What has Solar done to show that it IS POSSIBLE to beat Dr. M?

What has Dr. M done that makes it questionable whether Solar, or any high herald, can beat him?

He's only faced non powered characters. And he even had a limit to how many missiles he could protect America from. A much weaker pre god Valiant Solar single handedly defeated an alien invasion...

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Dimensional BFR ok
Energy absorption not ok since Dr. M can absorb energy too and duplicate himself an indefinite amount of times.

With that said, Solar wins then.

Based on feats, Solar's energy absorption >> Dr. M's.

Glad you're siding with Solar, though.

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Nov 21st, 2011 03:19 AM

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Solar, as a lot of people have stated like The Endless, Manhattan was more about perception and presence in the story than action

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Based on feats, Solar's energy absorption >> Dr. M's.

Glad you're siding with Solar, though.

What was one of his biggest absorption feat?

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What has Dr. M done that makes it questionable whether Solar, or any high herald, can beat him?

He's only faced non powered characters. And he even had a limit to how many missiles he could protect America from. A much weaker pre god Valiant Solar single handedly defeated an alien invasion...

again on the other hand there is nothing that says he isn't capable of crushing high heralds. Also I swear if one more person brings up the idea of his concerns over not being able to stop the nukes from falling I will beat them with a spoon. That particular statement is based purely on his vision of the future being blocked rather than anything saying that he was incapable of stopping all the nukes.

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What has Dr. M done that makes it questionable whether Solar, or any high herald, can beat him?

He's only faced non powered characters. And he even had a limit to how many missiles he could protect America from. A much weaker pre god Valiant Solar single handedly defeated an alien invasion...

Irrelevant.
I can be the weakest character in the universe but unbeatable.

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Irrelevant.
I can be the weakest character in the universe but unbeatable.

case and point butterball??

Nov 21st, 2011 08:10 AM

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Is that reboot Solar?

Haven't picked it up yet. Jim Shooter still got it? I thought the Valiant run jumped the shark after he stopped writing it...

Nov 23rd, 2011 07:34 AM

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And for Odins sake, NO this is not the Mega Powerful version of Solar that wrecked/created the Multiverse in Valiant/Acclaim run. This is Dark Horse version of Solar.

About that:

Isn't it the same Solar?

Like I said, I haven't actually followed new solar, but I thought it was supposed to reboot the franchise, but also continue it.. Basically picked up where Valiant left off.

Nov 23rd, 2011 07:38 AM

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