Leaked conference reveals Republicans' plan to tell a new set of lies
But really, they are just the old set of lies in new clothing. I suppose everyone knew this was coming, but, it just is so much worse when you actually see how talking points are created.
maybe I'm just a bit cynical on the whole thing, but I tend to see this as a necessary consequence of partisan politics.
For a political party to mean anything, they have to have a cohesive message, and individuals can't challenge one another within the party if they want to be competitive in the game that is electoral politics.
Interesting stuff none the less, but I would almost assume the Democrats have similar "keep-on-point" style meetings, and certainly Democrats aren't above lying. Very interesting though
Democrats already have made the shift to pretending to sympathize with the occupiers. So I am guessing they had a similar meeting earlier in the year. It is interesting, I bet you will see much less mockery of the occupiers on Fox within a very short time from now. This is great, its like a rosetta stone. They have already changed around some of their buzzwords in response to this, we are going to see some rapid transition.
The real interesting line is the first one; he says he is terrified of the Occupy movement! "Frightened to death"! So much for the notion that no one was taking them seriously. Here we see the Republicans in a scramble to try and adjust their message to run from them.
I agree with 2, 4, 5, 7, 9, and 10. I see nothing wrong with those and I agree with the concepts.
2. Since I think we should do away with all income taxes, I will obviously consider "taxes are bad, mkay?"
4. Who doesn't want a career or long-lasting job? That's just common-sense.
5. I think the government wastes tons of money in their spending. I really like the direction of calling it waste. Since I am closer to "classical republican" in my political ideals, I would obviously agree with calling most government spending waste. It needs to be cleaned up and the majority of it ceased.
7. Telling politicians how to speak to protesters is not lying. IMO, if you don't already know how to engage in dialogue with the protesters, you're an idiot. If you have to be told to say "I get it", then you're an idiot. This talking point is rather stupid and it shows how stupid some republicans are if you have to tell them to say it.
9. Sound advice. Most tax payers have sacrificed enough, already. No more sacrificing: adjust the tax system and government spending.
10. This one is a "duh". Yes, much of our problems can be directly or indirectly blamed on Capital Hill and the White House. That much should be obvious. However, voters are fairly tired of the blame game. I am not sure if this is the best of advice, but I do agree with it on principle.
The thing is that he's not saying "change your policies to reflect these wishes of the people", he's saying "the people have these wishes, so change your language to reflect it and dupe people into believing you stand for something or make it seem like the issue is something else, but continue in the same way you have before policy-wise".
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Ah, good ol' Frank Luntz. Making Social Darwinism and Feudalism palatable for America.
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But you understand these are not actually policy changes. They are discussing how they will make themselves sound like they're changing direction, without actually changing at all.
I don't agree. They are changing their words to sound better while still maintaining positions that mean the same thing. Meaning, they are not trying to sound like they are changing direction, at all: they are just delivering most of their talking points more intelligently.
Obviously, both the dems and the GOP want to create jobs. But creating jobs is not enough. We need to create careers. Implementing smart regulations (not just a bunch of them), lower taxes, cutting government spending, creating policies that make it easier for American companies to compete, improving healthcare, and improving foreign relations are all ways to create careers instead of temporary jobs. It just so happens that I covered most of the other talking points.
Sometimes, it is not what you say, but how you say it. Many of the GOP positions are great or awesome. It's just that they never adhere to them. Same with the dems.
Who DOESN'T want a streamlined and efficient government? Who doesn't want smart laws and regulations? Who doesn't want less government spending and better use of taxes?
Any person who does not want those things is either out of touch, an idiot, or both. It just so happens that the GOP and Dems say they want those things but never deliver.
I'm going to have to agree with King Kandy: this is just another set of Republican lies. After all, we know that this tactic is never used outside of conservative political circles. Liberals--sorry, progressives--would never resort to such chicanery to accomplish their goals. You don't hear progressives rebranding global warming--errr, climate change--or same-sex marriage--I mean marriage equality--or abortion--sorry, reproductive rights--into new terms and phrases to advance their legislative agenda. Typical Republican behavior, really.
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I actually typed out a post that lists some specifics that most people are aware of when they hear/read the section you quoted of my post. I am quite sure you are aware of those items, as well. If you would like me to give you what I typed out, I will: just PM me.
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