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Symmetric Chaos
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Internet Blackout

A bunch of sites are off today in protest of SOPA/PIPA.

So far I've found:

Steve Jackson Games
http://www.sjgames.com/blackout/

Wikipedia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page

Demonoid
http://www.demonoid.me/files/

That Guy With The Glasses
http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/

Reddit
http://www.reddit.com/

Cyanide and Happiness
http://www.explosm.net/sopa.html

SMBC
http://www.smbc-comics.com/#comic

Do you think this protest will have an impact? Have you heard anything from politicians about the blackout?

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Jan 18th, 2012 03:01 PM

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Patient_Leech
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I hope it works. This shit must be stopped..

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I think it will not matter. Now, if Google had a real black out, instead of just a blacked out name, then it might have some impact.

Who should join in to make it effective?

PayPal?
eBay?

Those are the first two the come to my still asleep head.

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Symmetric Chaos
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Originally posted by Shakyamunison
I think it will not matter. Now, if Google had a real black out, instead of just a blacked out name, then it might have some impact.

I think Wikipedia will be effective. I've already reflexively tried to use it twice.

A Google blackout wouldn't really make sense since they don't operate in a way that could ever get them blocked. It would be a very loud message, though. Same with eBay and PayPal.

I've been looking around for the blacked out sights and found that besides Wiki and Reddit there's nothing very large involved. WIRED is a geek site. Demonoid only has member who are pirates. SJGames helped found the EFF and is another geek site. It seems to me that social networking services would be the most vulnerable to SOPA and make the most effective statement if blacked out.

A Reuters article on the subject.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012...E80H01U20120118

The response from Twitter is weird, basically: "We won't disrupt a global service to protest a national issue" even thought it's a national issue that will disrupt their global service.

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Jan 18th, 2012 03:48 PM

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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/..._n_1206347.html

quote:

Saturday marked a major victory for opponents of proposed anti-piracy legislation Stop Online Piracy Act (SOPA) and PROTECT IP Act (PIPA), which would target foreign-based websites violating U.S. copyrights.

House of Representatives bill SOPA and its Senate counterpart PIPA are designed to punish websites that make available, for example, free movies and music without the permission of the U.S. rights holders. Opponents of the bills, however, worry that the proposed laws would grant the Department of Justice too much regulatory power. Google Chairman Eric Schmidt has called the measures "draconian."

Other Internet giants who oppose the bill include Facebook, eBay, Mozilla, Twitter, and Huffington Post parent company AOL.

The White House on Saturday officially responded to two online petitions, "Stop the E-PARASITE Act" and "Veto the SOPA bill and any other future bills that threaten to diminish the free flow of information," urging the President to reject SOPA and PIPA.

http://nymag.com/daily/intel/2012/0...itter-rant.html

quote:
Rupert Murdoch exploded last night after news that the Obama White House was coming out against two online anti-piracy bills near and dear to the hearts and financial interests of major media companies like News Corp.

"Obama has thrown in his lot with Silicon Valley paymasters who threaten all software creators with piracy," Murdoch declared.

The White House's top technology officers sort of agree with Rupert, saying that "online piracy is a real problem that harms the American economy, threatens jobs for significant numbers of middle class workers and hurts some of our nation's most creative and innovative companies and entrepreneurs."

But many opponents of SOPA and PIPA claim that the bills would limit the freedom of expression. Google and Twitter have even reminded lawmakers that the bills take the same approach used by the China and Iran to censor their citizens' Internet access. The White House agrees:

Proposed laws must not tamper with the technical architecture of the Internet through manipulation of the Domain Name System (DNS), a foundation of Internet security. [...] We must avoid legislation that drives users to dangerous, unreliable DNS servers and puts next-generation security policies, such as the deployment of DNSSEC, at risk.

Already, the House bill's two co-sponsors have agreed to withdraw the DNS-blocking provision from SOPA, while several of the Senate bill's sponsors have asked Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid and Minority Leader Mitch McConnell to delay a floor vote scheduled in less than two weeks, citing the barrage of calls and e-mails they've been getting from "a large number of constituents and other stakeholders with vocal concerns about possible unintended consequences of the proposed legislation."

But not all supporters of the bills are taking these setbacks lying down. After the White House came out against the legislation, Murdoch took to Twitter (his favorite new toy, it seems) yesterday with a series of exasperated messages.

5:54 p.m. ET: Piracy leader is Google who streams movies free, sells advts around them. No wonder pouring millions into lobbying.

5:57 p.m. ET: Film making risky as hell. This has to lead to less, hurting writers, actors, all concerned.

10:25 p.m. ET: Just been to google search for mission impossible. Wow, several sites offering free links. I rest my case.

Then again, Twitter may not have been the most sensible outlet for such sentiments, considering on which side of this fight the site and likely many of its users find themselves. Among the public responses Murdoch received were several with choice phrases like "walking embodiment of the old world" and "three words: make better films" and "searching google turned up no such links for me ... "

Umad murdoch?

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quote: (post)
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
I think it will not matter. Now, if Google had a real black out, instead of just a blacked out name, then it might have some impact.

Who should join in to make it effective?

PayPal?
eBay?

Those are the first two the come to my still asleep head.

I think PayPal, Ebay, credit card companies, Google(completely) and Youtube should have joined. Bigger impact.

This needs to be stopped quick!

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I'm disappointed that neither facebook nor twitter have done anything. A complete blackout on those two sites would probably be more harmful than helpful - considering how important social media is these days - but at least doing something like google and tumblr would be great.

Tumblr isn't completely offline, but when I went to it it popped up a message with info about SOPA and PIPA, gave me the option to black out my page for the day, and then has a form to contact your rep. Wordpress is also not offline but has blanked out most of the stuff on their main page and there are a huge number of plugins to black out your blog for the day - sadly I can't seem to find any that work with WP-hosted sites.

Also, I think that this will definitely help. SOPA's already been temporarily shelved because of all of the poor publicity surrounding it. There's also been next to no coverage of it (and even with people who know about SOPA, PIPA's gone entirely under the radar). Make more people aware, and there's a better chance of getting these killed for good.

Edit: WP has an option under Settings to black out your site for the day if you have one hosted on their servers (and thus don't have the option to install plugins). Sweet.

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quote: (post)
Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
A bunch of sites are off today in protest of SOPA/PIPA.

So far I've found:

Steve Jackson Games
http://www.sjgames.com/blackout/

Wikipedia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page

Demonoid
http://www.demonoid.me/files/

That Guy With The Glasses
http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/

Reddit
http://www.reddit.com/

Cyanide and Happiness
http://www.explosm.net/sopa.html

SMBC
http://www.smbc-comics.com/#comic

Do you think this protest will have an impact? Have you heard anything from politicians about the blackout?

Ah, that explains my unsuccessful attempts to access Wikipedia today, although I should have read the text explaining the blackout. I 'm always bad at not checking the details, like the FMV sequences in games I cut only to find I don't know what the hell I'm doing.

The wiki protest will kill some forum debates though; no more easy fact-finding for some people.

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Originally posted by rudester
I DONT CARE AS LONG AS i STILL HAVE MY FAKE PORNO STORIES

Well you seem to be fine then.

Jan 18th, 2012 04:04 PM

Peach
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quote: (post)
Originally posted by Lord Shadow Z
Ah, that explains my unsuccessful attempts to access Wikipedia today, although I should have read the text explaining the blackout. I 'm always bad at not checking the details, like the FMV sequences in games I cut only to find I don't know what the hell I'm doing.

The wiki protest will kill some forum debates though; no more easy fact-finding for some people.

The text isn't exactly small, how could you miss it?

Also that's kind of the point. Show people what the potential consequences of this passing could be.

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Jan 18th, 2012 04:11 PM

Symmetric Chaos
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quote: (post)
Originally posted by rudester
I DONT CARE AS LONG AS i STILL HAVE MY FAKE PORNO STORIES

As opposed to Penthouse Forums?

I did check Literotica to see if they joined the blackout but it's still up. They use Hustler vs Falwell as a defense against potential copyright infringement so maybe they're not worried.

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Lord Shadow Z
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Originally posted by Peach
The text isn't exactly small, how could you miss it?

Also that's kind of the point. Show people what the potential consequences of this passing could be.

Well, I first just assumed it was something iffy with my computer, it's not like they got to the point and the text size is not small but a header with the relevant information on would have captured my focus better.

Jan 18th, 2012 04:19 PM

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Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
A Google blackout wouldn't really make sense since they don't operate in a way that could ever get them blocked. It would be a very loud message, though. Same with eBay and PayPal.

Under the bills' current language, Google could be prosecuted for "facilitating" piracy, as could literally any search engine, so this affects Google moreso than many sites, since they don't even need to do anything to get hit.

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Under the bills' current language, Google could be prosecuted for "facilitating" piracy, as could literally any search engine, so this affects Google moreso than many sites, since they don't even need to do anything to get hit.

I wasn't aware of that. I guess they just don't want to loose revenue.

4chan is sort of participating, it isn't blacked out but all the text is spoilered.

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Jan 18th, 2012 04:22 PM

Peach
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A friend of mine has created an album of sites that are blacked out here. Pretty neat.

quote: (post)
Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
I wasn't aware of that. I guess they just don't want to loose revenue.

4chan is sort of participating, it isn't blacked out but all the text is spoilered.

That's participating stick out tongue

They've 'censored' everything for now.

And yeah, the way these bills are written are really kind of messed up and show a complete ignorance of how the internet actually works.

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Jan 18th, 2012 04:25 PM

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quote: (post)
Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
A bunch of sites are off today in protest of SOPA/PIPA.

So far I've found:

Steve Jackson Games
http://www.sjgames.com/blackout/

Wikipedia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page

Demonoid
http://www.demonoid.me/files/

That Guy With The Glasses
http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/

Reddit
http://www.reddit.com/

Cyanide and Happiness
http://www.explosm.net/sopa.html

SMBC
http://www.smbc-comics.com/#comic

Do you think this protest will have an impact? Have you heard anything from politicians about the blackout?

I think the protest will have an impact, and vastly raise awareness on the issue of internet censorship.

I've also found these sites participating randomly:

http://www.xda-developers.com

http://www.wpwallpaper.com/

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Originally posted by Lord Shadow Z
Ah, that explains my unsuccessful attempts to access Wikipedia today, although I should have read the text explaining the blackout. I 'm always bad at not checking the details, like the FMV sequences in games I cut only to find I don't know what the hell I'm doing.

The wiki protest will kill some forum debates though; no more easy fact-finding for some people.

Oh, and if you disable javascript in your browser you can still access wikipedia.

It explains so in the FAQ to the SOPA blackout http://goo.gl/LHuzL

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