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Starscream M
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Black Bolt vs Thor - To the Death

1. CIS ON-Fight to the Death

2. CIS OFF-Fight to the Death

Both will use everything they have to win. The King vs The God.

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Thor in both. Good fights, though.

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Thor in both. Good fights, though.

hmm, can you explain why you said Gladiator loses both but Thor wins both?

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hmm, can you explain why you said Gladiator loses both but Thor wins both?

Thor>>>>>Gladiator,simple.

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hmm, can you explain why you said Gladiator loses both but Thor wins both?

Sure can.

Thor > Gladiator. It's been shown and stated in comics more than once, so that's good enough for me. Not only does Thor beat Gladiator for the majority, but Thor's powerset and abilities are better catered for dealing with Black Bolt than vice versa. It doesn't hurt that he also has a win over him, as well.

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Sure can.

Thor > Gladiator. It's been shown and stated in comics more than once, so that's good enough for me. Not only does Thor beat Gladiator for the majority, but Thor's powerset and abilities are better catered for dealing with Black Bolt than vice versa. It doesn't hurt that he also has a win over him, as well.

you assumed BB's scream could take out gladiator

why wouldn't it work on thor...who's much slower than gladiator and has even less chance of moving out of range of such a devastating scream

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Thor wins both.

Thor's lack of restraint > Black Bolts Lack of Restraint

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Thor wins both.

Thor's lack of restraint > Black Bolts Lack of Restraint

BB screams...thor's KOed.

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you assumed BB's scream could take out gladiator

why wouldn't it work on thor...who's much slower than gladiator and has even less chance of moving out of range of such a devastating scream

Mjolnir.

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Thor wins both.

Thor's lack of restraint > Black Bolts Lack of Restraint

I'm not sure what you're trying to say here, but I'm pretty sure you're saying it wrong, and I'm pretty sure I disagree...

I think Thor definitely wins with CIS on, and probably with CIS off.

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Mjolnir.

mjolnir cannot block a scream jake. mjolnir is not a deus ex device that you make pull stuff outta your behind just to hand thor a victory. erm

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BB screams...thor's KOed.

Black Bolt Screams, Thor raises Mjolnir, Thor goes through the scream, Thor crams Mjolnir down Black Bolts throat.

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I think Thor definitely wins with CIS on, and probably with CIS off.

CIS on, ok I can see thor winning. CIS off, and both aiming to kill, how do you see thor winning when BB can unleash a fullon scream at thor the second battle begins?

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I'm not sure what you're trying to say here, but I'm pretty sure you're saying it wrong, and I'm pretty sure I disagree...

I think Thor definitely wins with CIS on, and probably with CIS off.

I'm saying that when the gloves come off, and they both go at it with all they have, Thor's raw power will trump Black Bolts. Sorry for the confusion.

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mjolnir cannot block a scream jake. mjolnir is not a deus ex device that you make pull stuff outta your behind just to hand thor a victory.

Black Bolt's scream isn't just a "scream". I'd suggest looking into the character and how his powers work.

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mjolnir is not a deus ex device

Based on feats and capabilities, it certainly is at times.

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pull stuff outta your behind just to hand thor a victory.

Well, the thing is, Mjolnir has the feats to suggest that it can defend against such an attack. Not sure how that's pulling anything out of my behind.

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CIS on, ok I can see thor winning. CIS off, and both aiming to kill, how do you see thor winning when BB can unleash a fullon scream at thor the second battle begins?

Because at the end of the day, Thor has used Mjolnir to redirect, block and absorb not only a ridiculously wide variety of energy attacks, but also greater amounts of energy than Black Bolt's voice has ever displayed (though we've never gotten feats for an unfettered scream, I doubt it matches up to the bomb that Thor absorbed that was going to blow up a fifth of the universe... or something)

Thor, especially CISless, is just a really solid character to counter any energy-based powerhouses, such as BB.

That being said, Black Bolt's voice is much more than a basic energy blast, and is actually tied to his ability to manipulate electrons in objects. We've never seen Thor counter Black Bolt's voice, so this is speculation, hence the 'probably'. If Thor can't deal with the way that BB's voice manipulates the environment for widescale destruction, than Odinson goes down.

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Well, the thing is, Mjolnir has the feats to suggest that it can defend against such an attack.

o'rly...please show me an incident of such roll eyes (sarcastic)

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Because at the end of the day, Thor has used Mjolnir to redirect, block and absorb not only a ridiculously wide variety of energy attacks, but also greater amounts of energy than Black Bolt's voice has ever displayed (though we've never gotten feats for an unfettered scream, I doubt it matches up to the bomb that Thor absorbed that was going to blow up a fifth of the universe... or something)

Thor, especially CISless, is just a really solid character to counter any energy-based powerhouses, such as BB.

That being said, Black Bolt's voice is much more than a basic energy blast, and is actually tied to his ability to manipulate electrons in objects. We've never seen Thor counter Black Bolt's voice, so this is speculation, hence the 'probably'. If Thor can't deal with the way that BB's voice manipulates the environment for widescale destruction, than Odinson goes down.

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Because at the end of the day, Thor has used Mjolnir to redirect, block and absorb not only a ridiculously wide variety of energy attacks, but also greater amounts of energy than Black Bolt's voice has ever displayed (though we've never gotten feats for an unfettered scream, I doubt it matches up to the bomb that Thor absorbed that was going to blow up a fifth of the universe... or something)

Thor, especially CISless, is just a really solid character to counter any energy-based powerhouses, such as BB.

That being said, Black Bolt's voice is much more than a basic energy blast, and is actually tied to his ability to manipulate electrons in objects. We've never seen Thor counter Black Bolt's voice, so this is speculation, hence the 'probably'. If Thor can't deal with the way that BB's voice manipulates the environment for widescale destruction, than Odinson goes down.

I honestly don't see Mjolnir blocking BB's voice instantly...now, if thor were completely prepared, I could see him concentrating perhaps to make Mjolnir be able to absorb something akin to a scream, but in this fight he does not have the wherewithal to pull that kinda of unpracticed maneuver instantly

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o'rly...please show me an incident of such

Thor used Mjolnir to prevent the destruction of 1/5 of the Marvel Universe.

Thor used Mjolnir to absorb and redirect the energies of the Null Bomb, which was capable of destroying a galaxy and reignited a sun in the process.

It really helps to know WTF you're talking about before spouting the kind of misinformed nonsense you habitually post.

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