so anyone know the exact score on wins and losses they have to each other. I know the two have fought on several occassions but I have trouble getting my hands on the issues where they do fight. also some of the links on the WonderWoman respect thread are broken
We have seen where Diana is bloodlusted, she is capable of harming him with her tiara and sword - like when she made the decision to kill Maxwell Lord.
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I've wondered the same question, and have not been able to find a list. By far the most common outcome is a draw is one thing I'm sure of, and while in the fights Clark tends to have the advantage, the final results is probably a lot closer to even than many people suspect.
Greg Rucka has stated she has the advantage on the ground, him in flight.
Wonder Woman is a perfect mixture of Amazonian beauty, her soft ivory curves counterbalancing her hinted muscularity.I like Superman, but he's just too powerful.
If you're referring to "For Tomorrow" then I'd like to point out that pretty much everyone got that treatment in said story. Superman treated Batman like an angry child throwing a temper tantrum and Kyle Rayner was just some hapless damsel in distress that needed Superman to rescue him from peril.
I loved the story but the writer tried way too hard to make Superman a badass to the detriment of pretty much every other character he came into contact with.
What are some of the other ocassions?
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And also, despite his attitude, he didn't win in the fighting, so that really doesn't say much. They fought for awhile, each getting some attacks in (and she was oddly equipped only with a little dagger instead of her sword, axe or lasso, each of which would've been better, especially the lasso since she was just trying to stop him), then she had to go save some dudes, because that's how she roles.
It was a stalemate, Sacrifice was, if anything, a win for Diana, League of One was a start of a fight then Clark getting the 'others in danger' line making him run off (while admitting actually taking him down was unlikely), and when fighting a magic *boosted* Superman who Circe made go into a blind rage and become more Doomsdayish and stronger than normal, she fought him long enough to break that enchantment too.
It's hard to think of the last time she's lost. Well, I guess in the absolutely horrible Tenth Circle he suckerpunched her in the back of the head, but then she held off a vampire-controlled Superman quite well later on.
Stalemates are the rule between the two of them and Enyalus's comment can be ignored.
Though I will note that in Elseworlds, alternate WWs tend to do horribly for some reason. It's pretty annoying.
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I was talking about....ah. I forget exactly when it occurred. I believe its volume 3 of the JLA, around Identity Crisis? Wonder Woman attacks Superman with her sword, the art shows multiple strikes with it, and Superman is standing there blocking all of them casually with one hand.
I hope Pr knows what I'm referring to if no one else does.
What's generally said about them is "Yea, Superman'll eventually win*, but it'll be a heck of a fight**." With the two notes being *They almost never get a chance to fight it out to the end, and **Unless Clark makes a mistake or Diana gets lucky, like with a tiara throw.
Oh wait, or was that from the totally lousy The Tenth Circle story arc? I think she broke a mundane sword (i.e. not her normal enchanted blade, just one she picked up there) against him in that.
And the story does have this in it too saying they're equal. Though you can tell from the page it's not a particularly good source.
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