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Galan007
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FPSSJ Goku vs. Meta-Cooler Army

FPSSJ Goku from the Cell Games:
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The Army of Meta-Cooler's seen in DBZ Movie #6:
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Cooler states there are 1,000 drones in his army:
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-Fight takes place on an indestructible planet devoid of life.
-Goku must permanently destroy every one of the Meta-Coolers to win.
-Meta-Cooler is free to use any abilities he displayed in the movie(inc. regeneration and instantaneous movement.)


Who wins?


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At first glance i'd like to say Goku wins but since this is you Galan, and i know your DBZ knowledge is vast, i doubt you'd make a thread so easily won. So leaning towards Goku but we'll see.....


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Granted, Goku is far more powerful than the Cooler army, but he's not so much more powerful as to render all attacks from the Coolers ineffective, imo-- that is to say: I believe the physical and energy attacks delivered by the Coolers could harm Goku to some(likely minimal) extent. Furthermore, while Goku might be more powerful, he is not any faster.

That said, imagine 1,000 Coolers simultaneously blitzing Goku via IT. I could see that many Coolers moving that fast bridging the power gap that exists between them and Goku. Goku's good, but he's not good enough to block every single attack from 1,000 beings moving just as fast as him.


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Consider me swayed


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lol

I'm not necessarily saying the Coolers win, but given their numbers and their speed, they could make it one hell of a fight, imo.


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Each power-up in Dragon Ball is immense. Cell went from Piccolo's equal to being completely unfazed by Piccolo's full-powered blast, he then snapped Piccolo's neck.

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At that point Cell was Cyborg #16's equal, and after the absorption of #17 he took out #16 in one shot too.

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Now Metal Cooler should be weaker than #17, and Full-Power Super Saiyan Goku should be above 2nd form Cell—with Ultra Super Saiyan Vegeta being somewhere in-between.

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Now Metal Cooler should be weaker than #17
Cell-age Goku and Vegeta(pre-time chamber) were utterly shit-stomped by Meta-Cooler physically. In fact, it took their combined energy attacks just to defeat that one drone.

So I'd say a single Meta-Cooler is definitely on par with 17-- if not slightly superior. And in this battle there would be 1,000 of them blitzing Goku simultaneously via IT.


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#18 destroyed Super Saiyan Vegeta.

Still, #17 and Piccolo couldn't damage 1st Form Post-Human Absorption Cell, #16 who was on par will 1st Form Post-Human Absorption Cell couldn't damage 2nd Form Cell, and 2nd Form Cell couldn't damage Ultra Super Saiyan Vegeta.

So from that I don't see Metal Cooler being able to damage Full-Power Super Saiyan Goku.

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You're assuming that Goku would receive the same degree of resistance to attacks that Cell did, despite their composition being vastly different-- this is faulty for obvious reasons.


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Goku doesn't get hurt at all.

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Based on what? Genuinely curious.

Has Goku demonstrated imperviousness to injury from 1,000 beings on par with #17 attacking him at FTL speeds before?


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You're assuming that Goku would receive the same degree of resistance to attacks that Cell did, despite their composition being vastly different-- this is faulty for obvious reasons.

Goku was able to take Frieza's "Death Beam" to the face as a Super Saiyan, and Ultra Super Saiyan Vegeta took blows from Cell too without getting wounded.

I honestly don't think composition has much to do with defense and resistances in Dragon Ball.

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Goku was able to take Frieza's "Death Beam" to the face as a Super Saiyan, and Ultra Super Saiyan Vegeta took blows from Cell too without getting wounded.

I honestly don't think composition has much to do with defense and resistances in Dragon Ball.
You misunderstand me, I think.

I don't believe a single Cooler could cause much damage/harm to Goku at all-- that's why there are 1,000 Coolers in this thread.

That said, I believe an FTL attack from Cooler would do something to Goku--I highly doubt that he could just tank a FTL blow from a #17-level being w/o so much as flinching--but not much, initially. However, even an entirely insignificant amount of damage multiplied by 1,000 is going to add up eventually. That's why I think this could be a good fight.


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Plus if not completely destroyed, they repair themselves and become even stronger


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Because in the entirety of DBZ there are not many instances of someone significantly weaker hurting someone. It doesn't matter if there are 1000 of the, there's no realistic way for 1000 of them to simultaneously land blows on Goku. The only thing the Coolers can resort to are ki blasts in which would probably do more collateral damage than good, especially with teleportation.

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Goku puts up a great fight, but in the end cant win, so he does what Vageta did in the Buu Saga and Kills himself to save the universe,(please log in to view the image)


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It doesn't matter if there are 1000 of the, there's no realistic way for 1000 of them to simultaneously land blows on Goku. The only thing the Coolers can resort to are ki blasts in which would probably do more collateral damage than good, especially with teleportation.
Simultaneously? Obviously not.

However, it is quite possible for Goku to get punched/blasted from behind by multiple Coolers, as he is defending from several other Coolers attacking him head-on. Like I said earlier: Goku is good, but he can only do so much given that he does not have a speed-advantage here. And just to clarify my stance once more: I don't think a single Meta-Cooler could deal much damage to Goku at all. In fact, he might even be able to tank the first few dozen(or so) blows without so much as a scuff on his skin to show for it.

But again: hundreds/thousands of FTL blows from beings who are no less than equal to Android 17, would add up eventually, imo-- especially when you consider how fast said attacks could logically be delivered, given the speed of this match. For all Goku's power, he does not possess unlimited durability or stamina. He could still absolutely win, but I think it'd be one hell of a fight, regardless.


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Simultaneously? Obviously not.

However, it is quite possible for Goku to get punched/blasted from behind by multiple Coolers, as he is defending from several other Coolers attacking him head-on. Like I said earlier: Goku is good, but he can only do so much given that he does not have a speed-advantage here. And just to clarify my stance once more: I don't think a single Meta-Cooler could deal much damage to Goku at all. In fact, he might even be able to tank the first few dozen(or so) blows without so much as a scuff on his skin to show for it.

But again: hundreds/thousands of FTL blows from beings who are no less than equal to Android 17, would add up eventually, imo-- especially when you consider how fast said attacks could logically be delivered, given the speed of this match. For all Goku's power, he does not possess unlimited durability or stamina. He could still absolutely win, but I think it'd be one hell of a fight, regardless.
the meta cooler has unlimited stamina plus their kai dosent decrease no matter how long the fight takes


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the meta cooler has unlimited stamina plus their kai dosent decrease no matter how long the fight takes


And they reapir themselves!!!!!


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