In all of Middle Earth's history? Besides Eru? Melkor, then Manwe. In just LotR? Sauron, maybe Bombadil, but he's never extrapolated on.
Greatest? I can't recall much from the books, but if the movies stuck somewhat close, then likely Gandalf, or Aragorn. Frodo can f*ck off.
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Yeah, other than Eru, Melkor, and Manwe, the most powerful would be Sauron or Bombadil......... i wish he had more explanation......... Tehn yes, Gandalf or Aragorn. Gandalf is a maiar, and has done many things that would make him the greatest, and Aragorn wins a bad ass contest and has owned countless orcs. He also matched wills with Sauron, and served Thengol and Ecthelion under the alias of Thorongil........
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Turgon aran Gondolin tortha gar a matha, i vegil Glamdring gud dae lo, dam an Glamhoth.
yeah i think tom should get more credit though he was there before the first trees
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Yes, but he is still the greatest due to the fact that if he didnt create the Ainur then Arda wouldnt have existed And wtf is with Frodo? Beren did more, Luthien, CaRanthir, Celegorm, Maedhros, etc. Feanor, eh, he did plenty, not all of it great.... one of the not so great things was dying......
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Turgon aran Gondolin tortha gar a matha, i vegil Glamdring gud dae lo, dam an Glamhoth.
Beren and Luthien. yes, going into the court of Morgoth himself, going through Charcharoth, Tol Sirion, etc. Turin, yes, because his life just plain SUCKED, Maedhros. nah, nmot really, he just got his hand cut off.
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Beren and Luthien are the only ones who come close to overcoming what Frodo did. Poor little guy went through Hell.
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After him I'd say Morgoth at his height would come in second, or possibly Ungoliant when she had just finished draining the White Tree and was powerful enough that she almost ate Morgoth.
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i suppose its that pain in the neck tom bombadill though tolkien goes on about how sauron would eventually be able to overpower him with the ring and what not. If your just talking about the movie and other than sauron i suppose its gandalf or the leader of the nine
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Jul 26th, 2009 12:48 AM
And wtf is with Frodo? Beren did more, Luthien, CaRanthir, Celegorm, Maedhros, etc. Feanor, eh, he did plenty, not all of it great.... one of the not so great things was dying...... 
