America has what's called Managed Democracy, a proto-fascist system wherein corporate and financial power have so much influence on elections via campaign financing and advertisement that no candidates who do not play ball or follow a certain narrative can possible make it onto the ballot or be elected in a primary. That's why the last election was black Herbert Hoover pretending to be Bill Clinton v. US Grant with jowls.
As for blatant ass fraud, all I can say is duh. See there's this new phenomenon that's been happening since around 1996 called red shifting which is when you exit poll and find out that 56% of people voted for a Democrat and then official tallies say a Republican won by 25%.
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I don't know. It would seem that guys with the same ideas as you, who had the power to do something to prevent that, would. Do we assume that 0% of people with influence will oppose unfairness in an event where there's obviously motive to be unfair? Is rampant cheating dismissed by zealous opponents? That seems possible but unlikely to go unchallenged for long.
Someone will take it upon themselves to do exactly what he said you'd have to do to ensure that there had been no tampering. Watergate was an example of government that thought it wouldn't be betrayed by it's own. Also Clinton's spectacle. My point is that these parties really don't see eye to eye and they jump on the opportunity to cry foul especially if they have evidence. That makes me think that evidence has been extensively searched for, for cheating in important elections.
When it occurs due to religious or Stalinist factors, it's referred to as "Illiberal Democracy" although the term applies in both cases since "Liberal Democracy" only applies to governments that represent their people and act according to their needs. Also, why has this been relegated to the conspiracy theory section?
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yep,their rigged alright.how much longer is it going to be before people wake the hell up and start voting independent? the republicrats and demopublicans sleep in bed together.I stopped voting a long time ago,they are the same party.There is a really good book out on it that details it all called VOTE SCAM that proves that our votes dont count.they represent the corporations not the people or the constituion.
Why is this in the conspiracy section? This is a known, documented, problem. There have been multiple scandals involving rigged elections. Even cyber security degrees cover the programming basics (such as writing a batch file that can be loaded onto the "tally" storage media to quickly alter votes...using just plain ol' DOS to write it) for "vote rigging."
It freaks people out because of how "scary" this can be to their perception of a "safe" and "fair" world.
I also do not think it is as prevalent as some of the conspiracy theorists believe.
And yes, Darth Jello hit the nail on the head. There's a reason why third party candidates never come remotely close to winning any elections.
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Ron Paul will never get elected like the american people want him to.Its a well known fact that the elite made sure that Bush jr got elected BOTH times.He wont get elected because the american people wont take their country back and he has the same kinds of visions that Kennedy had,our last REAL president.Real because he wasnt a puppet for the establishment.thats why they got rid of him,he wasnt doing what they told him to do and thats why every president since him has stayed alive because they HAVE been willing puppets for the establishment and did what they were told to do while in office.
yeah, that sucks. JFK was our last real president. Now they are trying to regulate the internet with PROJECT IP ACT. If this passes we will be losing more of our freedom.
Shit, it's been awhile. While I'm mostly a fan of JFK, I have to disagree with this since it's commonly accepted that Lyndon Johnson rigged the votes in Texas and Illinois. I do think on think that the Democrats never ran a good candidate in the general election since George McGovern because of what happened in Dallas.
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why? you prefer two war mongrels who want war,are here to serve wall street instead of us and are funded by them and lobbyists and both have put a lighter to the constitution.you want one of the two clowns we got stuck with instead of having a president that will serve the people? thats real smart.
Pretty sure Ron Paul is funded by wall street and corporations, too. Funding for campaigns doesn't just come out of thin air. All politicians are the same. And nobody has put a lighter to the constitution. Wait, do we even live in the same country? You're in the U.S., right?
To answer your question, though, no. I just know Ron Paul's a piece of shit like the other two.
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Ron Paul is no different from any other national politician.
Unless there is a major change while in office (like the one JFK underwent), a politician does NOT have the best interest of the people at heart. Ever. Period.
How on earth do you think they get to where they are in the first place? The Illuminati/Elite/Globalists whatever you want to call them (and ultimately Satan as well) don't let anyone that will rock the boat into the big time. JFK is pretty much the only exception to the rule (and that happened AFTER he was already in office) and look what happened to him.
So if anyone is looking to Ron Paul to save this country, they're unfortunately very sadly mistaken.
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Apr 19th, 2011 03:12 PM
Thank you, Pittman! ^_^
