As The Ultimate Visual Guide confirms, the Clone Wars Cartoon is 100% canon. Thus, all of GG's feats in said cartoon are 100% canon by proxy.
That said, absolutely nothing from this scene indicates that Shaak Ti was less powerful than normal: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DXQx_QLY8XM
...Yet Grievous owned her effortlessly.
There's also this battle scene: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=64-3talVkUA
Any time Shaak Ti (and co.) were confronted by Grievous, he easily outmatched them in sabers.
^True. Grievous' power has been retconned though, he isn't anything special anymore, hardly on par with random Council Members. In the OCW and LoE he was better than he is now.
It's not a retcon unless an authority on the matter officially states: "CG Grievous is weaker than cartoon Grievous"(or some-such.) Until then, we can only assume that his skills/abilities remained consistent throughout the Clone Wars, whether he displayed them to the same extent or not. Any other assumptions are purely opinion-based.
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Grievous never 'rivaled' Dooku. As far as his brief scuffle with Mace during LoE is concerned: all GG really did was dupe a version of Mace's Vaapad, and begin using it against him-- an ability Mace was not aware of, nor was he ready for. That's why he opted to tool GG with the force instead. Regardless, you make it sound like Grievous was on the same level as Mace and Dooku before the CG stuff came about. He clearly wasn't-- not even his feats in the cartoon were indicative of such. That's why Dooku made this comment during their training session in the cartoon:
"If you are to succeed in combat against the best of the Jedi, you must have fear, surprise and intimidation on your side... For if any one element is lacking, it would be best for you to retreat. You must break them before you engage them. Only then will you ensure victory."
At any rate, both Koth and Fisto used the force at some point during their battles to gain an advantage over Grievous. Despite this, it's still very clear that even CG Grievous was skillful enough to contend with them in a pure saber match(heck, GG appeared to have the advantage over Koth until he used the force.) Also keep in mind that the opponents CG Grievous has battled are, in general, of much higher level than the no-names he battled in the cartoon--- this may be where the perceived 'power difference' stems from..? /shrug
Do you have the actual quote on hand? Because if that's all he said, then it is an extremely ambiguous statement.
Last edited by Galan007 on Apr 8th, 2013 at 05:55 PM
2. ''It's not the sensibility that people got, you know, unfortunately or not in the previous Micro series where they're all hiding in a ship worried about Grievous is gonna come and stomp on them.''
Ashoka performed better in TCW against Grievous than Mundi and Shaak Ti did. That doesn't make her more powerful than both of them. Eth Koth also battered him with a wounded arm no less.
I do believe Grievous is still a threat in Pure Sabers to almost any Jedi. But he's not on the level anymore where he can take on and defeat 2 Council Members in an all out.
Last edited by Darth Thor on Apr 8th, 2013 at 06:44 PM
Conversely, Shaak Ti and Mundi faltered when they tried going blow-for-blow with Grievous. Had they used the force against him (like many other Jedi have) they likely could have prevailed. GG has no counter to the force.
Depends entirely which Council members. Personally, I don't see a legitimate reason why CG Grievous wouldn't be able to best Shaak-Ti/Mundi in a pure saber match. What have they done to say otherwise?
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