so how did u find this movie?
did u find it boring, confusing, breathtaking?
i could cope with the slow pace of the movie, it is one of the most visually stunning film i have ever seen...and the fact that it was made in the 60's is just amazing.....i still havent figured out the ending..im gonna watch it again later
doesnt Hal the AI give you the creeps?
if no one as saw this amazing movie then do so immediatly!
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It is a classic dean and the fact that it was made in the 60's makes it really something. I do agree that it does get a little dull in the middle and you wonder 'what the hell' but the ending is great. HAL is the embodment of creepy.
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Visually stunning and mentally stimulating, I quite liked it, but not just something someone could sit down and say "ah, a lazy Saterday afternoon, time for some light entertainment". And Hal was, for me, the best part. I felt so sorry for him.
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I watched 2001: A Space Odyssey for the first time over 2 weeks ago and I have to say that the film is brilliant! I'm a huge fan of Kubrick and I finally got to see this movie and it was excellent. The score and the visual effects is quite amazing. Yes, Hal is the coolest and creepiest character in the movie. "I'm afriaid, Dave"
for those who was left baffled by the film..well here is a brilliant animation explaining the things that took place in the film http://www.kubrick2001.com/
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I have no idea why they felt the need to dress up simple explanations like that in tiresomely long animation. I could have read it all in two minutes.
Err, it also goes completely wrong; its analysis does not match what Clarke said.
[SPOILER - highlight to read]: HAL does not go nuts out of some form of evolutionary superiority. There has been a mess-up with his programming when he was ordered to keep the true nature of the Jupiter mission secret. This is why the message saying that plays when he is de-activated, and the problem is discovered by HAL's creator when Discovery is boarded in 2010; once the error is corrected, HAL (who, incidentally, LIKED Humans, far from finding them boring, evolutionary comment though this was) is fine.
Nor does HAL make a mistake. He correctly predicts the failure, but only because he is going to do it.
It also doesn't seem to want to discuss the creation imagery on the entry to the monolith- shame. that's important.
Furthermore, it misses out the other important part of the film-
[SPOILER - highlight to read]: 2001 was created during the Cold War, and the entire series reflects this. The doctor's meeting with the Russian scientist (played, interestingly enough, by Leonard Rossiter) reveals an important fact about this vision of the 'future'- that the Cold War continues. The Moon is not being explored by Man- but by the US and Russia, in competition.
The Moon Monolith, once reached, reports to the main Jupiter monolith- "Man has reached the moon." Unfortunately, it also reports "It looks like Man has failed." Becuase the technology granted by the monoliths has created a destructive and evil species, not a progressive one. Man is on a final warning, and in the rest of the series to 3001 this gets worse (sadly, one problem with 2010, especially the film version, is that the Cold War link is overplayed- Kubrick did everything so much better!
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The messages don't matter that much- that is actually what happens in the story!
They are certainly better than 2010, but 2001 was such a seminal film-making moment, a fantastic creation, albeit in a very dull way. The third book in the series is also notable for nothing happening, and all the books are hamstrug by Clarke's odd view of how human development will go (not technology, he was good at that, but socially and politically). You would think he might have learned by getting the Cold War wrong, but no...
Err, anyway, so, 2001 is best, really, and the clues as to why HAL failed and what the Monolith was doing are all there, just too obscure to really guess without the rest of it.
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Yeah, this movie was a definite classic. I watched it along time ago. There were many moments of silence throughout the film, I guess purposely for effect. HAL was the coolest thing about the whole movie. A little interesting tidbit about how the producers came up with the name HAL in case you didn't already know this, they were making fun of IBM which was very big at the time they made this movie. They chose a letter before each letter of IBM, get it H-A-L, I-B-M. True story.
Btw, like I said it's been a while since I saw this movie so i'm not really sure what HAL was. Was he a space age super computer? And how intelligent was he or in other words how good was his AI? Was he smarter than that computer from War games and could he also be programmed to play chess? Just wonderin
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LOL...Yes it would be. Are you joking about him being able to play chess? I really don't recall if he could or not or if there was a scene where he did that in the movie.
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I know its so un PC, but I cannot stand this movie. Horribly boring. Maybe I'm just jaded because I grew up with SW & Alien & Close Encounters so the effects in this one did nothing to justify the monotyny IMHO.
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