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Stupid AOTC plot holes

Hi! I'm new here. Just to start a new thread, I'm going to make a list of AOTC plot holes that are...well, stupid. Granted, I'm not one of those Prequel haters that will bash it for being the worst thing since battlefield earth, but recently rewatching these movies and the review from RedMediaLetta inspired me.


AOTC PLOT HOLES.



1. Why didn't Padme's security detect the bomb that was so blatantly planted there? Or was it a missile? Either way, Zam clearly saw Padme survive, and knew that she used a decoy, implying that she was overseeing the attempt. If so, then why didn't she just shoot Padme when she was standing over the body of the decoy and mourning? Furthermore, why such a small missile? Why not just launch a thermonuclear weapon from orbit and blow up the entire structure?

2. Why was Padme's decoy apologizing for failing her? Didn't she do her job like she was supposed to, and gave her life doing so?

3. If people are trying to kill Padme, why is she sitting in a building with clear windows open to trillions of people?

4. Why did Padme sleep next to the window? She wants to use herself as bait, but clearly wants to live too. She survived only because Zam was an idiot and decided to send slow moving bugs through a window instead of just parking her speeder near Padme's apartment and shooting her dead.

5. Why did R2 scan every place except for the windows, the only plausible entrance?

6. How did Obi Wan know that she went in there to run, not to hide?

7. Why would Jango Fett get hired to do something, only to hire someone else to do it?

8. If Obi Wan and Anakin were able to somehow locate Zam's speeder in a sky of billions of them, why couldn't they use this to track down Jango Fett, who was in a rocket pack that probably had a limited range?

9. Why did Jango Fett use a traceable poison dart instead of just a blaster?

10. If Dextor is so knowledgable he knows that the entire Jedi Archive does not, why is he running a small bar?

11. If Kamino was deleted from the Jedi Archives, why didn't Obi Wan just go to the holonet?

12. Ok, so Jango Fett was the template for the clone army; the Jedi know this. Jango Fett was also contracted by the seperatists; the Jedi know this. So the Clone Army was made by a seperatists…to fight seperatists? And they never notice this?

13. Why does Padme have no problem with Anakin committing mass genocide?

14. Why didn’t Obi Wan’s starfighter accelerate during the chase scene? Why did it move so slowly when we know that Star Wars starfighters can move at extremely fast speeds; notice how the X wings circumnavigated Yavin, a gas giant, within minutes?

15. If the LAAT is out of rockets, shoot Dooku down with freaking lasers!

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9. Why did Jango Fett use a traceable poison dart instead of just a blaster?


Didn't they want the Jedi to trace the assassin back to Kamino so they could get the Clone army?

No, wait, thats not it, Palpatine genuinely wanted her to die.



Shits and giggles I guess.

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10. If Dextor is so knowledgable he knows that the entire Jedi Archive does not, why is he running a small bar?


He's a spy?

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11. If Kamino was deleted from the Jedi Archives, why didn't Obi Wan just go to the holonet?


Clearly Count Dooku hacked the internets. ALL OF THE INTERNETS!

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12. Ok, so Jango Fett was the template for the clone army; the Jedi know this. Jango Fett was also contracted by the seperatists; the Jedi know this. So the Clone Army was made by a seperatists…to fight seperatists? And they never notice this?


I get the feeling they do, theres just nothing they can do about it.



Though really the answer to all of these is simply bad writing.


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No, wait, thats not it, Palpatine genuinely wanted her to die.


And by her, I mean Padme. She was never meant to survive the explosion, and so there woud be no dart for them to trace in the first place.


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Though really the answer to all of these is simply bad writing.


No, that would be the answer to the Dark Knight's narrative issues.

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No, that would be the answer to the Dark Knight's narrative issues.
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Don't insult the Dark Knight. The Dark Knight is awesome.

So are the prequels, until you examine them more deeply and realize that they have more plot holes than you can shake a lightsaber at.

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Oh yeah, well your fail powers have tripled.

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No, that would be the answer to the Dark Knight's narrative issues.


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There are none.

You're just butthurt I'm kicking your ass in our private message debate.


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There are none.


I can only conclude that the world and all within it looks radically different when peeked from the snug confines of Christopher Nolan's ass crack.





hehehe

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You're just butthurt I'm kicking your ass in our private message debate.


That debate began several minutes after the post you quoted began.

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I can only conclude that the world and all within it looks radically different when peeked from the snug confines of Christopher Nolan's ass crack.





hehehe

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To claim The Dark Knight has more bad writing in it than AOTC requires a level of fanboyism so vast that it borders on frothing lunacy and renders anything you say completely invalid. I Dare you to justify some of the plot holes listed here.

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That debate began several minutes after the post you quoted began.



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To claim The Dark Knight has more bad writing in it than AOTC requires a level of fanboyism so vast that it borders on frothing lunacy and renders anything you say completely invalid.


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[SPOILER - highlight to read]: Still struggling to successfully argue the Dark Knight's objective superiority? Your conflict amuses me.

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I Dare you to justify some of the plot holes listed here.


o noez not ze dreaded dare


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No it didn't. no expression


Yes, it did. You didn't reply to my PM argument until 10 minutes after that post was made; the discussion was going on before, but the debate didn't begin until then. Ergo, I logically had no reason to be butthurt.




[SPOILER - highlight to read]: See how that works? It's almost like... a magic trick. Your point? It's gone!

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[SPOILER - highlight to read]: Still struggling to successfully argue the Dark Knight's objective superiority? Your conflict amuses me.


You think AOTC is superior to TDK?

What happened to you Gideon? you used to be cool....

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o noez not ze dreaded dare



I will stretch to a double dare if needs be.



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[quote]Yes, it did. You didn't reply to my PM argument until 10 minutes after that post was made; the discussion was going on before, but the debate didn't begin until then. Ergo, I logically had no reason to be butthurt.




[SPOILER - highlight to read]: See how that works? It's almost like... a magic trick. Your point? It's gone!


The PM debate is simply a continuation of the discussion in your thread, so it undoubtably counts. Theres a reason you never attempted to answer me in the actual thread.

Cuz you're a chicken wuss.


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You think AOTC is superior to TDK?


I never said that.

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What happened to you Gideon? you used to be cool....


[SPOILER - highlight to read]: I wear a tie now and it oppresses my soul.

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I will stretch to a double dare if needs be.


u woodent!

[SPOILER - highlight to read]: I have protection against such feeble assaults.

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The PM debate is simply a continuation of the discussion in your thread, so it undoubtably counts.


Not when you identified and qualified the debate as the "private message debate". Our discussion in the thread didn't occur via PM, it occurred on the thread. Our PM debate began, according to my Inbox, at 7:44pm.

Victory is mine.

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Theres a reason you never attempted to answer me in the actual thread.


Correct.

[SPOILER - highlight to read]: I don't have ze book on hand.

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I never said that.


You implied it:

'No, that would be the answer to the Dark Knight's narrative issues.'

Saying The Dark knight suffers from bad writing and AOTC doesn't certainly indicates which you believe to be superior.


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[SPOILER - highlight to read]: I wear a tie now and it oppresses my soul.


Monster.

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u woodent!

[SPOILER - highlight to read]: I have protection against such feeble assaults.


I took Epic Spell Penetration at level 20. Your defences are nothing to me.

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Not when you identified and qualified the debate as the "private message debate". Our discussion in the thread didn't occur via PM, it occurred on the thread. Our PM debate began, according to my Inbox, at 7:44pm.

Victory is mine.


I termed it as such merely becuase that was the format in which it was currently taking place. Again you take casual sentence wording much too seriously.


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You implied it:

'No, that would be the answer to the Dark Knight's narrative issues.'

Saying The Dark knight suffers from bad writing and AOTC doesn't certainly indicates which you believe to be superior.


[SPOILER - highlight to read]: Interesting that you see fit to lecture me on inflating the importance of 'casual word choice' and yet you conclude I find one movie superior to another because of an implication? lawlz

There are multiple elements to a story, writing is simply one and even it can be divided into dialogue and plot, perhaps more. There are aspects of Attack of the Clones' writing that I find superior to the Dark Knight's, but not all. (Dialogue, for example, is overwhelmingly in favor of Nolan's work.)

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Monster.


Did you just go all Lady Gaga on me?

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I took Epic Spell Penetration at level 20. Your defences are nothing to me.


Penetration? Giggity

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I termed it as such merely becuase that was the format in which it was currently taking place. Again you take casual sentence wording much too seriously.


ur mom

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[SPOILER - highlight to read]: Interesting that you see fit to lecture me on inflating the importance of 'casual word choice' and yet you conclude I find one movie superior to another because of an implication? lawlz


And yet it is an undefeatable point, seeing as if you confront it you are confronting your own argument at the same time.

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There are multiple elements to a story, writing is simply one and even it can be divided into dialogue and plot, perhaps more. There are aspects of Attack of the Clones' writing that I find superior to the Dark Knight's, but not all. (Dialogue, for example, is overwhelmingly in favor of Nolan's work.)


Name one aspect thats better. no expression

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Did you just go all Lady Gaga on me?


This is a bad romance.

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Penetration? Giggity


roll eyes (sarcastic) you're so predictable.

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And yet it is an undefeatable point, seeing as if you confront it you are confronting your own argument at the same time.


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Name one aspect thats better. no expression


I find overall story to be better. A looming war, a doomed romance, the decay of democracy and rising dictatorship.

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This is a bad romance.


Agreed, I never found the relationship between Harvey and Rachel to be especially compelling.

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roll eyes (sarcastic) you're so predictable.


Ooh, a little fight in you. I like that.

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u no

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Re: Stupid AOTC plot holes

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Originally posted by Fortitude
Hi! I'm new here. Just to start a new thread, I'm going to make a list of AOTC plot holes that are...well, stupid. Granted, I'm not one of those Prequel haters that will bash it for being the worst thing since battlefield earth, but recently rewatching these movies and the review from RedMediaLetta inspired me.


AOTC PLOT HOLES.



1. Why didn't Padme's security detect the bomb that was so blatantly planted there? Or was it a missile? Either way, Zam clearly saw Padme survive, and knew that she used a decoy, implying that she was overseeing the attempt. If so, then why didn't she just shoot Padme when she was standing over the body of the decoy and mourning? Furthermore, why such a small missile? Why not just launch a thermonuclear weapon from orbit and blow up the entire structure?

2. Why was Padme's decoy apologizing for failing her? Didn't she do her job like she was supposed to, and gave her life doing so?

3. If people are trying to kill Padme, why is she sitting in a building with clear windows open to trillions of people?

4. Why did Padme sleep next to the window? She wants to use herself as bait, but clearly wants to live too. She survived only because Zam was an idiot and decided to send slow moving bugs through a window instead of just parking her speeder near Padme's apartment and shooting her dead.

5. Why did R2 scan every place except for the windows, the only plausible entrance?

6. How did Obi Wan know that she went in there to run, not to hide?

7. Why would Jango Fett get hired to do something, only to hire someone else to do it?

8. If Obi Wan and Anakin were able to somehow locate Zam's speeder in a sky of billions of them, why couldn't they use this to track down Jango Fett, who was in a rocket pack that probably had a limited range?

9. Why did Jango Fett use a traceable poison dart instead of just a blaster?

10. If Dextor is so knowledgable he knows that the entire Jedi Archive does not, why is he running a small bar?

11. If Kamino was deleted from the Jedi Archives, why didn't Obi Wan just go to the holonet?

12. Ok, so Jango Fett was the template for the clone army; the Jedi know this. Jango Fett was also contracted by the seperatists; the Jedi know this. So the Clone Army was made by a seperatists…to fight seperatists? And they never notice this?

13. Why does Padme have no problem with Anakin committing mass genocide?

14. Why didn’t Obi Wan’s starfighter accelerate during the chase scene? Why did it move so slowly when we know that Star Wars starfighters can move at extremely fast speeds; notice how the X wings circumnavigated Yavin, a gas giant, within minutes?

15. If the LAAT is out of rockets, shoot Dooku down with freaking lasers!


Why don't you just post Mr. Plinket AOTC's review? It would be easier.


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