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The Creeper (Jeepers Creepers) vs Captain America (MCU)

The Creeper finds something on Cap (Steve Rogers) that he likes, he therefore tries to hunt him with his goal to kill Steve and take his eyes.

Round 1: H2H only, no flying, no shield.

Round 2: All-out, Creeper has his weapons, he's allowed to fly, Cap gets his shield.

If Cap gets stomped give him a handgun, if he still gets stomped he also has Bucky's help.

Separate scenario: Cap has to track and save Darry before he is killed in Jeepers Creepers 1, he will arrive at the police station to see Darry being carried off into the night, he will then immediately be brought up to speed by Jezelle, Trish, and all surviving police officers before he goes off to try and save him. He will have Bucky's help for this.

Who wins?


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Cap would punch and tear the Creeper's body apart, leaving only the clawed-hood and wings (The Creeper's true form), but that thing just heals and heals.

So Cap in both, if destroying the Creeper's human parts counts as a win.


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Cap would punch and tear the Creeper's body apart, leaving only the clawed-hood and wings (The Creeper's true form), but that thing just heals and heals.

So Cap in both, if destroying the Creeper's human parts counts as a win.

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Cap's going to be risking his life getting up close. A single hit from Creeper would be enough to put him on his ass, and if he gets a hold of him it's over.

Creeper is way stronger, more than tough enough to tank a lot of Cap's hits, and is actually a lot faster than him too. And similarly, if not more skilled at throwing things than Cap is with the shield.

The weapons fight favors Creeper too because as we've seen, a strong enough individual can catch the shield in flight, or knock it out of the air. So if Cap throws it, there's a big chance he's not getting it back. While Creeper has an axe, a javelin, a knife, and at least one or two shuriken. He also has telekinesis that effects at least his weapons, so he can control them and call them back if he misses.

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Cap would punch and tear the Creeper's body apart, leaving only the clawed-hood and wings (The Creeper's true form), but that thing just heals and heals.

So Cap in both, if destroying the Creeper's human parts counts as a win.


The Creeper was shot at point-blank range in the head in 1 with no damage, shot through the body with a harpoon (that was stuck in his body for the rest of the movie), Creeper is a fair bit stronger then Cap as well. (IIRC Creeper flipped a truck and the bus in 2, haven't seen 3 yet because I've heard it's horrible.)

Also got ran over multiple times by a car and got up from it within less then 10 minutes.

Got stabbed through the head with a javelin and all it did was stagger him for a bit.

Then we have all of his weapons and flight added into the mix. I dunno if Cap can pull it off himself. I mean that kid held the Creeper's head back but it was nearly the end of the 23 days and it had taken mountains of punishment throught that night.

I just wanna point out it wasn't stopped due to the damage it took, it was stopped because it's time was up (23 days was over.)


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Cap's going to be risking his life getting up close. A single hit from Creeper would be enough to put him on his ass, and if he gets a hold of him it's over.

Creeper is way stronger, more than tough enough to tank a lot of Cap's hits, and is actually a lot faster than him too. And similarly, if not more skilled at throwing things than Cap is with the shield.

The weapons fight favors Creeper too because as we've seen, a strong enough individual can catch the shield in flight, or knock it out of the air. So if Cap throws it, there's a big chance he's not getting it back. While Creeper has an axe, a javelin, a knife, and at least one or two shuriken. He also has telekinesis that effects at least his weapons, so he can control them and call them back if he misses.


Can having Bucky make a difference?


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Creeper takes it. King outlined it well.


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I can't remember all of the Jeeper's strength feats but I know Cap's helicopter feat is as good or better than anything I remember from the Creeper. I also don't remember much from the 3rd other than they turned his vehicle into an indestructible piece of nonsense.

The Creeper also never fought anyone like Cap before so I actually think Cap is going to have the skill and tactical advantage because he faces superhuman threats all the time.

I think the two biggest advantages the Creeper has is his flight and his ability to tank damage. Also the Creeper seems to have some mystical BS around it at times but nothing that I think would come into play in a fight.


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I can't remember all of the Jeeper's strength feats but I know Cap's helicopter feat is as good or better than anything I remember from the Creeper. I also don't remember much from the 3rd other than they turned his vehicle into an indestructible piece of nonsense.

The Creeper also never fought anyone like Cap before so I actually think Cap is going to have the skill and tactical advantage because he faces superhuman threats all the time.

I think the two biggest advantages the Creeper has is his flight and his ability to tank damage. Also the Creeper seems to have some mystical BS around it at times but nothing that I think would come into play in a fight.
He can control his bone weapons with his mind.


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He can control his bone weapons with his mind.
Oh thank you for reminding me about that! It's not like true telekensis though where he has them going all over the place. If I remember correctly the only time I saw it he just summoned his axe back to him?


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I can't remember all of the Jeeper's strength feats but I know Cap's helicopter feat is as good or better than anything I remember from the Creeper. I also don't remember much from the 3rd other than they turned his vehicle into an indestructible piece of nonsense.

The Creeper also never fought anyone like Cap before so I actually think Cap is going to have the skill and tactical advantage because he faces superhuman threats all the time.

I think the two biggest advantages the Creeper has is his flight and his ability to tank damage. Also the Creeper seems to have some mystical BS around it at times but nothing that I think would come into play in a fight.


It's a good feat, but Creeper has several that beat it flat out. And while Cap is used to fighting superhumans, when he fights superhumans who are stronger and tougher than him, he usually puts up a good fight and then loses. Like when he fought Loki. Or if he wins, there's circumstances like he could take advantage of the environment to take Spidey out of the picture long enough for him to leave. For example, he flips the schoolbus, which weighs 14 tons and several hundred pounds taking into account all the people inside. I don't see Cap doing that no matter how much he struggles.



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He can control his bone weapons with his mind.


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Oh thank you for reminding me about that! It's not like true telekensis though where he has them going all over the place. If I remember correctly the only time I saw it he just summoned his axe back to him?


He summoned his axe yes, but he also has made several long distance throws that either confirm he can control his weapons in flight, or he is simply Hawkeye level or better when it comes to projectiles he has in his hands. And even if it's just insane accuracy and he can summon his weapons back, Cap will have to worry about weapons buzzsawing back toward Creeper through him whenever he misses.

Skills -
https://gfycat.com/pessimisticunsteadyankolewatusi - Spears a woman in the dark while missing his dominant eye.
https://gfycat.com/fabulouseducated...crocodilelizard - Speared two guys with one throw and stuck them to a tree.
https://gfycat.com/deadhotkiskadee - Pops a bus tire while running through a corn field. The bus was speeding down the highway. So his accuracy is insane.
https://gfycat.com/jadedmajorindianhare - Throws a shuriken into the barrel of a shotgun.
https://gfycat.com/detailedmajorcollardlizard - While flying in the sky, pins a guys arm to a tree with a throwing knife. He led the shot.
https://gfycat.com/firstbaggyheterodontosaurus - Shuriken headshot while the guy is running the other way.

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It's a good feat, but Creeper has several that beat it flat out. And while Cap is used to fighting superhumans, when he fights superhumans who are stronger and tougher than him, he usually puts up a good fight and then loses. Like when he fought Loki. Or if he wins, there's circumstances like he could take advantage of the environment to take Spidey out of the picture long enough for him to leave.



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He summoned his axe yes, but he also has made several long distance throws that either confirm he can control his weapons in flight, or he is simply Hawkeye level or better when it comes to projectiles he has in his hands. And even if it's just insane accuracy and he can summon his weapons back, Cap will have to worry about weapons buzzsawing back toward Creeper through him whenever he misses.
Can you list the feats you're talking about because nothing I'm thinking about is greater than that Helicopter feat.


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Strength -
https://gfycat.com/skinnypessimisticaffenpinscher - Shakes a bus filled with people while on top of it. 14 tons, and he just leaned over the side and shook the whole thing.
https://i.imgur.com/ZatxINj.png - Peeled the roof off a car like a sardine can.
https://gfycat.com/lateeuphoricdowitcher - Easily punches through the bus roof and while bent over picks a guy up by his skull.
https://gfycat.com/wellworngiddybantamrooster - Pulls a truck against it's engine while flying and with a harpoon stuck through his back.
https://gfycat.com/sizzlingunkempthackee - Flips the entire bus by looping the harpoon line through it and flying away. The bus is 14 tons and a few hundred pounds of change with all the students and the driver.
https://gfycat.com/devotedplumphornedtoad - Flips the truck end over end easily by just flying.
https://gfycat.com/foolishcreamycockerspaniel - Cuts through an industrial tow chain with one swipe of his axe. Although in fairness his weapons seem to be able to cut through nearly anything.
https://gfycat.com/courageousfreshguppy - His severed hand is easily strong enough to lift a woman off the ground several feet. And it proves he can remotely control his limbs.
https://gfycat.com/cautiousgiddydunnart - Casually flips a giant wheeled gas tank so hard it goes several dozen feet and rolls multiple times.
https://i.imgur.com/wxAaRiY.png - The tank is so big normal people can hide under it.
https://gfycat.com/assureddelectablebigmouthbass - Flips yet another truck over on its side with no problems.

Cap is strong yes, but he's not doing a lot of this stuff no matter how hard he struggles. While I can see Creeper replicating a lot of Cap's feats.

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Strength -
https://gfycat.com/skinnypessimisticaffenpinscher - Shakes a bus filled with people while on top of it. 14 tons, and he just leaned over the side and shook the whole thing.
https://i.imgur.com/ZatxINj.png - Peeled the roof off a car like a sardine can.
https://gfycat.com/lateeuphoricdowitcher - Easily punches through the bus roof and while bent over picks a guy up by his skull.
https://gfycat.com/wellworngiddybantamrooster - Pulls a truck against it's engine while flying and with a harpoon stuck through his back.
https://gfycat.com/sizzlingunkempthackee - Flips the entire bus by looping the harpoon line through it and flying away. The bus is 14 tons and a few hundred pounds of change with all the students and the driver.
https://gfycat.com/devotedplumphornedtoad - Flips the truck end over end easily by just flying.
https://gfycat.com/foolishcreamycockerspaniel - Cuts through an industrial tow chain with one swipe of his axe. Although in fairness his weapons seem to be able to cut through nearly anything.
https://gfycat.com/courageousfreshguppy - His severed hand is easily strong enough to lift a woman off the ground several feet. And it proves he can remotely control his limbs.
https://gfycat.com/cautiousgiddydunnart - Casually flips a giant wheeled gas tank so hard it goes several dozen feet and rolls multiple times.
https://i.imgur.com/wxAaRiY.png - The tank is so big normal people can hide under it.
https://gfycat.com/assureddelectablebigmouthbass - Flips yet another truck over on its side with no problems.

Cap is strong yes, but he's not doing a lot of this stuff no matter how hard he struggles. While I can see Creeper replicating a lot of Cap's feats.
I don't think some of those are way out of Cap's wheelhouse as you think they are. Like rocking the bus really isn't beyond Cap's strength level.

It's also important to note some of those strength feats involve him flying and not just lifting the items with pure raw strength.

I think the best feat which is also the best pure feat is him flipping the gas tank. Depending on how empty or full that thing is could possibly put it above the helicopter feat.

I also think you're dramatically underestimating how much it would take to stop a helicopter from lifting off like Cap did.

Also it's not like Cap doesn't have other insane strength feats. Like casually flipping with motorcycle and tossing it with enough force to stop a heavy fully loaded humvee dead in it's tracks. Or casually throw a human one handed like 40 feet.

Or when he picks up the giant beam that fell on Bucky. Even though he only lifted it a little bit off the ground it still would have probably weighed 20 to 40 tons.

All I'm saying is don't assume the strength gap is as large as you think. If it even exists at all.


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Creeper flying only means he has more leverage. If he wasn't strong enough to lift it, then he wouldn't leave the ground in the first place no matter how hard he flapped his wings. He'd just be flapping like a madman and going nowhere. Like Angel from X-Men wouldn't be able to do this just because he can fly.

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Creeper is stronger, he's still not winning this.

Cap's leagues above and beyond the better combatant and once the Creeper exhaust the few thrown weapons, which Cap can easily block, as he's blocked gun and energy weapon blast before, the Creeper has to get close and that's where Cap shines, up-close-and-in-you-face combat.



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Except that Cap's shield can and probably will be taken away. We've seen him lose it multiple times in multiple different situations. Like people catching it or just whacking it out of the air.

While Creeper can at the very least telekinetically summon his weapons back to him, and has superhuman accuracy to a scary degree.

Creeper would have to land absolutely no hits at all.

Also during those scenes Tony was fighting Cap and Bucky, and Steve was going all out while Tony only wanted Bucky gone.

Creeper can just stay in the air and chuck his weapons, then call them back until Steve gets hit.

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Except that Cap's shield can and probably will be taken away. We've seen him lose it multiple times in multiple different situations. Like people catching it or just whacking it out of the air.

While Creeper can at the very least telekinetically summon his weapons back to him, and has superhuman accuracy to a scary degree.

Creeper would have to land absolutely no hits at all.

Also during those scenes Tony was fighting Cap and Bucky, and Steve was going all out while Tony only wanted Bucky gone.

Creeper can just stay in the air and chuck his weapons, then call them back until Steve gets hit.
To be fair I think the only weapon we've ever seen him do that with was the Axe. We don't know if his other weapons can be resummoned. Unless I'm forgetting something.

I do agree the flight advantage is pretty good and hard to overcome but I don't think the Creeper only needs one hit to put Cap down. Cap is still hella durable as well.


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While the Creeper's bone weapons are durable enough to pierce thinner steel, they could potentiality shatter against Cap's virtually indestructible shield.


In those scenes, it was just Cap vs IM and Cap wasn't trying to kill Tony either, as we saw at the end when he could have literally taken Tony's head off.

Bucky had a few moments of fighting IM 1v1, he did well and IM was outright trying to murder him. We know Cap and Bucky are about equals.


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The Creeper wouldn't last 2mins against Iron Man, two Creepers wouldn't either.


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While the Creeper's bone weapons are durable enough to pierce thinner steel, they could potentiality shatter against Cap's virtually indestructible shield.


In those scenes, it was just Cap vs IM and Cap wasn't trying to kill Tony either, as we saw at the end when he could have literally taken Tony's head off.

Bucky had a few moments of fighting IM 1v1, he did well and IM was outright trying to murder him. We know Cap and Bucky are about equals.


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The Creeper wouldn't last 2mins against Iron Man, two Creepers wouldn't either.
Don't know about their durability being that shallow. We saw in the 3rd movie that the material the Creeper uses is ultra hard. His vehicle was like an indestructible tank.

Although if his vehicle and his weapons share that property I'm not completely sure. I don't think they would break though.

But yes Iron Man could take down 2 Creepers pretty easily.


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