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Faith-Healer Couple Neglects Newborn Twins - Baby Died

http://www.kptv.com/story/38605083/...for-babys-death

I had no idea not seeking medical help for your child - because of your religious beliefs - could get you charged and convicted of manslaughter.

Is this not a violation of the First Amendment?

First of all, an innocent baby is dead. That’s the most important point to remember.


Argue with me, bitches.

Is this whole case a violation of the parents’ First Amendment rights?


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I don't believe "muh religion" is reasonable grounds to let your child die. It looks like clear negligence that lead to this infant's death, really no different then the parents who fail to feed their baby and it dies.

edit; Remember that story I posted 8-9 years ago about the ultra-vegan parents that didn't believe in breastfeeding and their child died of malnutrition from a diet of something like almond milk and wheat grass juice? Criminal negligence


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There have been cases in the past where parents denied medical care for their children due to religious beliefs and it didn't end well for the parents with the loss of their child, their families and jail time.

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I doubt any 1A argument would hold up. Freedom of religion isn't absolute. You can't create a religion that says it is okay to sacrifice humans and have it so it's not illegal for you to do so.

This isn't like letting a religion use a certain illegal drug. This was where there was no possible outcome other than death for this baby without medical care.

But these people believe in God. I'd ask them why they feel God created a universe in which things like medicine are possible.

6 years seems low. I've heard of people getting longer sentences for embezzlement lol.


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Coming from someone who did not read the link at all and is just going by my own kneejerk reaction based on your brief summary, sounds like neglect to me.


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It's pure child neglect and they should be punished for it.


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Okay, so everyone is in agreement. It's neglect and even a religion that abstains from modern medicine is not a good enough reason to get them out of trouble with the law.

So you all agree abortion is wrong, now. Anyone who aborts or causes a developing baby to die due to neglect is guilty of manslaughter, just like this couple.

Looks like all of you fell for my trap and every single one of you has to suck my balls.


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Okay, so everyone is in agreement. It's neglect and even a religion that abstains from modern medicine is not a good enough reason to get them out of trouble with the law.

So you all agree abortion is wrong, now. Anyone who aborts or causes a developing baby to die due to neglect is guilty of manslaughter, just like this couple.

Looks like all of you fell for my trap and every single one of you has to suck my balls.
You only had to ask my friend.


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Post-birth abortion is wrong, yes. Unless it's me doing it, then it's fun.


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A horrendous way to learn what not to do.


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Okay, so everyone is in agreement. It's neglect and even a religion that abstains from modern medicine is not a good enough reason to get them out of trouble with the law.

So you all agree abortion is wrong, now. Anyone who aborts or causes a developing baby to die due to neglect is guilty of manslaughter, just like this couple.

Looks like all of you fell for my trap and every single one of you has to suck my balls.


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Okay, so everyone is in agreement. It's neglect and even a religion that abstains from modern medicine is not a good enough reason to get them out of trouble with the law.

So you all agree abortion is wrong, now. Anyone who aborts or causes a developing baby to die due to neglect is guilty of manslaughter, just like this couple.

Looks like all of you fell for my trap and every single one of you has to suck my balls.

I mean... this isn't the same thing.

I will suck your balls, tho.


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Saddam was a real progressive. Supported abortion like nobodies business.

Even 25-70 years post birth.


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Originally posted by snowdragon
There have been cases in the past where parents denied medical care for their children due to religious beliefs and it didn't end well for the parents with the loss of their child, their families and jail time.
Yeah, Mormons don't do blood transfusions etc.


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Originally posted by dadudemon
Okay, so everyone is in agreement. It's neglect and even a religion that abstains from modern medicine is not a good enough reason to get them out of trouble with the law.

So you all agree abortion is wrong, now. Anyone who aborts or causes a developing baby to die due to neglect is guilty of manslaughter, just like this couple.

Looks like all of you fell for my trap and every single one of you has to suck my balls.


Lol oh shit you would have had some on board if you didn't include the word "abort". Lefties cannot abide by an inability to kill babies in the womb.

It's why they are mad children are being separated from their parents. If they had been kept WITH their parents those children might have grown up to become doctors who perform abortions.


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I mean... this isn't the same thing.

I will suck your balls, tho.


Pretty much that.

But look on the bright-side, DDM, you're still getting your balls sucked.


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Pretty much that.

But look on the bright-side, DDM, you're still getting your balls sucked.


They are somewhat not the same thing. It's just a nigh arbitrary line people are drawing on a timeline somewhere between the zygote and after birth. It's a, "How dare you let your newborn die due to infant-complications because you do not believe in modern medicine" vs. "You should be able to murder your baby if you don't want it."


I know, so many offers.


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They are somewhat not the same thing. It's just a nigh arbitrary line people are drawing on a timeline somewhere between the zygote and after birth. It's a, "How dare you let your newborn die due to infant-complications because you do not believe in modern medicine" vs. "You should be able to murder your baby if you don't want it."


I know, so many offers.


I've noticed some on the left are going from being pro choice to being pro abortion. They are really adamant about their right to kill these babies.

To be fair, babies are evil and racist.

6 Shockingly Evil Things Babies Are Capable Of


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They are somewhat not the same thing. It's just a nigh arbitrary line people are drawing on a timeline somewhere between the zygote and after birth. It's a, "How dare you let your newborn die due to infant-complications because you do not believe in modern medicine" vs. "You should be able to murder your baby if you don't want it."


I know, so many offers.


Not so sure it's arbitrary. iirc, the period where an abortion transitions from legal to illegal is based on human development. I also think you'd argue there's a clear different between a minuscule clump of cells at say week 1 and a baby who has been born, as is the case of your story.


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For me it is the heartbeat that does it. Once it has a heartbeat(which takes about 60 days) to me...it is alive.


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