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Captain America Vs Batman strength

The read out on this scan's self explanatory...
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This scan supposedly shows a bench of well over 1,000lbs taking the smaller plates into account...
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Seems pretty even.
But gym lifts (and power sets) and feats are two different animals.
Batman's all training and discipline, Captain America's got the super soldier serum.
Comics wise they're (arguably) peers though.
This is comics, after all, where men and gods go head to head.

Who has the best strength feats? Who really IS the strongest?


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Wash. And that's all I can say at this point, before someone comes in and applies RL physics to comic feats.....


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RL? Nah, not applicable.


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Batman is a peer to Cap in the same way as J'onn is to
Superman. There would be a lot of lip service if they ever
fought for Bruce, but Steve will always be shown as
stronger.


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Thats a fair way to state it.
Batman though, has way more fans, and no jobber aura, so not quite the same.


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Isn't Cap is maxed out at human potential with maybe the odd superhuman feat?
I'm not sure if Batman/Bruce is

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Batman and Steve Rogers are both considered peak human, their lifting feats are nearly identical (Bruces 1000lbs to Caps 1100lbs bench) and both have great showings of strength in combat to back that up, its definitely as close as it gets with these two with Cap getting the slight edge

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Thats a fair way to state it.
Batman though, has way more fans, and no jobber aura, so not quite the same.
Lmao


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feats Cap is superhuman

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Batman has no jobber aura? Since when?


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I was confused by riv's statement as well.


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Abhi compared Cap/Batman to Supes/J'onn.
J'onn gets very little respect on this site, often straight up called martian manjobber.

Batman's not going to get that kind of treatment in ANY thread.


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Abhi compared Cap/Batman to Supes/J'onn.
J'onn gets very little respect on this site, often straight up called martian manjobber.

Batman's not going to get that kind of treatment in ANY thread.
Oh you used jobber aura in the wrong context. Those with jobber auras make the opponents they fight job..


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neither bats nor cap are peak human. there is a thread where i had a lengthy debate about this and other stats between them. despite what the handbooks say, both are manifestly>human. in general, cap is shown as stronger, but when their top feats are examined it can be seen quickly that bats can nearly match cap feat for feat in all areas, not just strength, the advantages are small, but they add up. in h2h, no equipment steve would take a good majority, but each fight would be brutal and very long.


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neither bats nor cap are peak human. there is a thread where i had a lengthy debate about this and other stats between them. despite what the handbooks say, both are manifestly>human. in general, cap is shown as stronger, but when their top feats are examined it can be seen quickly that bats can nearly match cap feat for feat in all areas, not just strength, the advantages are small, but they add up. in h2h, no equipment steve would take a good majority, but each fight would be brutal and very long.
I agree


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(...) often straight up called martian manjobber.


He's called that on other sites, too...


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Batman is a peer to Cap in the same way as J'onn is to
Superman. There would be a lot of lip service if they ever
fought for Bruce, but Steve will always be shown as
stronger.
MM isn't a peer to SM except in the most general terms. MM is closer to Thing lvl, SM is Hulk lvl. So while Thing an give Hulk a work out no one doubts Hulk will win when he gets serious. Also when you compare Strenght feats just like HUlk over Thing, SM easily towers over MM. For the most part when you compare Bat & Cap strenght feats they are extremely comparable.

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Do you really think MM strength is that far off from Superman in comparison to Thing and Hulk?


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neither bats nor cap are peak human. there is a thread where i had a lengthy debate about this and other stats between them. despite what the handbooks say, both are manifestly>human. in general, cap is shown as stronger, but when their top feats are examined it can be seen quickly that bats can nearly match cap feat for feat in all areas, not just strength, the advantages are small, but they add up. in h2h, no equipment steve would take a good majority, but each fight would be brutal and very long.
No, if they fought the issue would be in doubt for a long, long time, even if there's a winner it would be a very close majority like 5.5/10 or at worst 6/10 htye are that close in skill. To tell the truth I don't necessarily see Steve as the winner in such a contest either. My take is Steve might have a very slight edge in pure technique but Bruce is better at the more advanced MA skills like Atemi and Chi manipulation.

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Oh you used jobber aura in the wrong context. Those with jobber auras make the opponents they fight job..
Yep, and Batman's aura is so huge that a team composed of the greatest fighters and minds on the planet would fight and act like complete ****ing idiots when he's around.


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