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Stevie
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is venom good or bad

well is he? im not sure


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Old Post Apr 27th, 2004 01:51 AM
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Asian Hulk
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maybe he is like a vigilante.he can reciprocating corrupted politician and cops.Venom is just a Marvel vigilante.not a villain and not a hero.just like supervigilante like Catwoman,Magneto and Juggernaut .

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He is a viglante to the nth degree. He kills anyone committing any crime. But even though he does have 'good' qualities he is still willing to kill anyone who gets in the way of anything he is trying to do, whether they are good or bad.


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He's a goodie these days in terms of intentions. He is a good guy in the same way The Punisher is considered a good guy.

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Yeah, but still kills anyone who gets in his way. He does have the good intentions, I'm pretty sure he is still looked upon as a bad guy by allot of other characters in the Marvel universe.


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Venom is cool as hell, and a great adversary of Spider-Man too. But I can't say he's a good guy. He has killed innocent people (some warden who got in the way for example, and if I remember correctly, also a young police-officer).

In my book, that's not what a good guy is supposed to do. He's a good comic-character with a bad personality.


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It varies according to the version of Spider-Man being done.

In the comic book continuum everything has to have been tried. Even Mary Jane would be a bad character if you purposefully look for it in all the scenarios. Batman has killed many times, despite his oath never to kill.


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He is usually put in both the hero and villain categories.


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Id say he has potential to be good. but really he is a brutal killer, a vigilante is basically what he is all about.

He only goes to extremes when trying to kill spiderman, even tho he had no problem killing inocent bystanders.

but the monster Venom is completly evil

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If you've ever read the Maximum Carnage series there is a point where he throws himself in the path of some 'symbiote daggers' meant for a guard. he has evil and good tendancies. I don't think he really fits perfectly into either category.


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Venom fight against Doc Ock,Dr.Doom,Green Goblin,Lizard and even Carnage.but Venom saved Spidey's life.

Old Post Apr 30th, 2004 01:01 PM
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He's a bit unstable - flicking from bad intentions to the next.

You know like when you are in a bad temper and somehow lose control for a brief moment? You can be the most docile and well-mannered person, and something can set you off. Venom's in this state all the time I think. He can sometimes think logically, but I think his "temper curve" can challenge the Hulks at times.

Also, he's part alien, who knows what sort of screwed up idea of right and wrong he has?

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Venom is a villian, but not a villian in the sense that he wants to take over the world or steal money. He is a villian because he has killed "innocent" people before (such as a guard when he broke out of prison resulting in the creation of the Jury). He does however protect people from other criminals so long as they're not in his way (not trying to stop him directly) on several occasions he's saved people around him while going after Spidy and most recently Carnage.

Basically when Venom first came out and was only trying to kill Spidy, his prison guards and police in his way were fair game to harm and sometimes killed. However, after making peace with Spidy Venom acted much like other heros in saving people and using non leathal force against police coming after him. Now presently Venom is more of just the Symbiote now and doesn't seem to want to just kill people, but does kill people in prusuit of whatever it's going after.

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isn't eddie brock dead from cancer?


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isn't eddie brock dead from cancer?


He was supposed to be, but they said the Symbiote obsorbed his "esence" witch was bullshit((much like my current view of the Marvel Tsunami Venom)) becuase it acts nothing like Brock. and the Symbiote can seperate like mitosis

the new Symbiote dosent really need a host, it can act on its own now.

BUT this is contradicting becuase from what ive seen Venom vs Carnage has Brock and the Symbiote together again.

BUT again MAYBE Brock is still alive, he could have found treatment. Spidey attempted to hospitalize him but instead tossed him into the Symbiote becuase it can keep him alive.


but back to subject
the monster Venom is evil

If the real Venom also exist's he should be good. the last apperance of Brock showed him as pretty much burnt out on killing Spiderman.


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Eddie Brock is alive and recently was captured and confined by the Fantastic Four who extracted the symbiote from Brock's body. Reed Richards was observing both Brock and his "other" with the help some some alien technology in the form of a spontaneously replicating spider- like robotic creature--Nick Fury of S.H.I.E.L.D. then stole one of the creatures for his personal use--as Fury and team were to find the real Venom--still known to be inhabiting the body of Eddie Brock and recapture and contain Brock and the symbiote.
Meanwhile, the second Venom, created from the original Venom's severd tongue,and the pet project of a man known simply as "Bob" was en route to NY city, inhabiting the body of a woman named Patricia Robertson--whom he assimilated in a remote arctic radar station. The second Venom killed countless victims on his way to New York, and encountered Wolverine along the way, and in an ensuing scuffle temporarily absorbed Logan as well, giving him a set of adamantium claws. Yikes. Currently, the second Venom is enmeshed within Fury's own team, who are poised and ready to attempt to recapture Venom, with a little help from your friendly neighborhood spider-man.
So, yeah, Brock is alive. It took me a while to find out exactly what happened, if you haven't read Spectacular Spider-man #s 1-5--you should check them out--I wasn't exactly wild about the art at first (though some of it is really very beautiful), but it grows on you before long. But Spectacular Spidey's Eddie Brock isn't anything like the Brock we're accustomed to. In this version of the spidey universe, Brock is a semi-slow-witted fugitive, dying of an adrenal-related cancer, and starving for the affection of the symbiote, who again, has turned it's attention to Spider-man, the only host it ever wanted...


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Marcellus
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WHAT!?! holy crap, I quite reading that "Venom" series after run becuase it got to crazy......

but Im gonna have to go get those issues If Brock is in them....

time to get the old catalog.....


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it's all up to the writers, if they are running out of material venom will be a bad guy, if the writers have enough ideas, venom will be a good guy. Venom can go both way's. In lethal protectors he was good, in his comic book he is a good guy, He doesnt have ambition to kill spiderman anymore, and even fights along side of him now. Every ounce in a while though venom will get a good scheme in his head and go off on a little rampage, and spiderman will have to intervein beating down venom, and venom and spidermans pact is out the window, thus venom will hunt down spidey in the next few issues. Today venom is more or less a good guy with a vigilante mixture


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He's a vigilante, yo! He's a good guy, but not a goody-goody good guy. Brock has got the symbiote to deal with, and sometimes it has it's own agenda, you know, so sometimes people die at Venom's hands. it's the internal conflict that makes him so interesting, I think.


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none of them venom is the ugly,spiderman the good, and carnage the bad . problem solved?

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