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atv2
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Kylo Ren being redeemed.

I had some more thoughts on Kylo Ren's redemption; As we know Rey in episode 8 is supposed to be taking a deeper walk into the dark side and Kylo Ren is struggling with the light as he mentioned to his grandfather/Vader in Episode 7. I thought of some possibilities of Ben being redeemed. For one, he could come to the light at the last second of whatever may happen to him whether he is dead or alive. Second, he could come to the light in order to save Rey out of the dark side he could put his life on the line for her as Vader did with Luke when he was being shocked up by Palpatine. Third Rey could put her life in front of Kylo Ren's to save his life and this allows him to come to the light. Fourth, he could get into a fight with Rey and Rey either knocks him to an inch of his life or kills him and he comes to the light in that fashion. Fifth, Kylo Ren defeats Rey either injuring her or killing her and comes to his senses that things have come to far and he comes to the light in that fashion. What are some of your thoughts about Kylo Ren being redeemed?

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I don't want him to be redeemed; that's too boring.

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Kylo shouldn't be redeemed, him killing his father only reinforces that he's gone to far.


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He will be REDEEMED and Him and Rey will hook up and make little Force babies.


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Enter trilogy no. 4.


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Originally posted by DarthDuelist9
Kylo shouldn't be redeemed, him killing his father only reinforces that he's gone to far.


...did you forget that episode where vader killed a room full of children and then went off to choke his pregnant wife out?
it's okay if you did, i'm trying to forget it as well.


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Enter trilogy no. 4.


With Disney involved I think the "trilogy" concept has been tossed right out the window.


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...did you forget that episode where vader killed a room full of children and then went off to choke his pregnant wife out?
it's okay if you did, i'm trying to forget it as well.
It was so dark and epic. And so cool.


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There wasn't anything exactly wrong with it either....it was simple and to the point. In fact, of all the same redundant criticisms GL receives on a daily basis (I think for like 17 years now, and yes, some are legit) the entire order 66 montage was one of the best sequences out of all 7 films.


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Originally posted by Lord Lucien
It was so dark and epic. And so cool.


And dense.


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If he is the inverse of Luke Skywalker then absolutely not. He should state dark side to the end unlike that flip flopper, Anakin.


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If he is the inverse of Luke Skywalker then absolutely not. He should state dark side to the end unlike that flip flopper, Anakin.
Weak... he was weak... you're strong. Crush him.


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Kylo's worshipping that "weakling." Begging his corpse for help laughing out loud


The creators of TFA basically accepted they couldn't make a villain as Epic as Vader, so chose to have their villain worshiping him instead. Kind of a smart move in a way.

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Kylo's worshipping that "weakling." Begging his corpse for help laughing out loud


The creators of TFA basically accepted they couldn't make a villain as Epic as Vader, so chose to have their villain worshiping him instead. Kind of a smart move in a way.
In the end Vader was weak. He looked up to what Vader was like prior to his epic fall. Kylo shouldn't make the same mistakes as Vader. Vader in the end was a cripple who wasn't even mentally strong enough to finish what he started. Kylo has to take up the mantle. Kylo in one film has already surpassed him in evil. Long live the First Order.


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oh please. vader choking preggers-padme and killing babies is way worse than kylo euthanizing his geriatric dad.


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Kylo's already conflicted. We saw that throughout the film. The reason he killed his Dad was to prove to himself that he's completely turned, but he's just lying to himself.

He's still not embraced the dark side to the extent Vader did, so of course he's still redeemable. In fact I would prefer it if they redeemed him. Would make him a far more compelling character IMO.

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oh please. vader choking preggers-padme and killing babies is way worse than kylo euthanizing his geriatric dad.
Iyo which is irrelevant to the personal connection both had with their own family members. Vader killed Jedi but he was unable to give his son over to the emperor. Kylo also killed the Jedi he trained with under Luke so I have you both ways. Kylo is definitively more evil and faithful to the dark side than Anakin ever was.


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Kylo's already conflicted. We saw that throughout the film. The reason he killed his Dad was to prove to himself that he's completely turned, but he's just lying to himself.

He's still not embraced the dark side to the extent Vader did, so of course he's still redeemable. In fact I would prefer it if they redeemed him. Would make him a far more compelling character IMO.
You are so damn weak you really make me sick. You want him to redeem himself similarly to how Vader lost his balls. So essentially you didn't like Vader but more so Anakin. Disgusting.


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Iyo which is irrelevant to the personal connection both had with their own family members. Vader killed Jedi but he was unable to give his son over to the emperor. Kylo also killed the Jedi he trained with under Luke so I have you both ways. Kylo is definitively more evil and faithful to the dark side than Anakin ever was.


but vader DID give his son over to the emperor. not to mention cutting his hand off.

kylo came off as remorseful and confliced throughout the whole film and even after killing solo. vader in ep4 was an off-the-leash mad dog with no remorse at all.


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but vader DID give his son over to the emperor. not to mention cutting his hand off.

kylo came off as remorseful and confliced throughout the whole film and even after killing solo. vader in ep4 was an off-the-leash mad dog with no remorse at all.
There was good in him and he chose to kill the emperor over his son. He came back in the end.

Kylo wasn't delusional like Vader who was in denial. Ben admitted it was difficult but that didn't stop him from killing that worthless bastard, Han Solo. Kylo isn't a traitor like Vader turned out to be in the end.


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