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I'm making a Gellert Grindelwald respect thread based on the Fantastic Beasts and Where to find Them screenplay and it will be added by any material there is released about him.
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Yeah, the screenplay even notes how he's taking them on and appears to be winning so it's quite impressive considering those aurors were strong enough to destroy the Obscurus that was tearing apart the entire city.
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Just saw the movie tonight with my gf. One-shotting the group of 5 aurors at the beginning was cool. Blocking all the spells from the god knows how many aurors was impressive.
I also feel like over the course of the movie, he couldn't reveal just how powerful he was, since he was trying to maintain the Graves ruse, so he was 'nerfed'.
When newer movies come out, they inevitably try to one-up the previous ones and make them more cool and flashy; sincerely hope they don't make him seem more impressive than Tom was in the rest of the series, since Tom is canonically his superior.
I doubt he will ever have a feat on the level of one-shotting the Hogwarts barrier with a wand that wasn't working properly for him, though.
Griendelwald will definitely come across better throughout the films by the series end. He won't come across as better than Voldemort who has already been established as the darkest wizard of all time and IMO the greatest; hands down. The duel between he and Albus should look amazing but he loses despite having the elder wand whereas Albus failed to best Tom and he himself had the advantage of the elder wand.
Keep in mind iirc the last year of the last film in the potter universe will probably shed light on Tom in Hogwarts.
The early rise of the greatest dark wizard while the fall of another.
Yates the director discusses the differences in how these two go about causing upheaval.
Unlike Voldemort, who was an angry brute, the next iteration is much more lethal. He wants to win the hearts and minds in a way that’s quite beguiling and sophisticated, but his values are dangerous.” Such new nemeses are “able through sheer charisma and ability to inspire and hypnotize and carry the crowd, and take the world to a darker place. That’s where the next story is going.”
No one will ever live to Lord Voldemort but I love that these two characters have different methods of operations.
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The duel in The Ministry Atrium was considered a tie, however if you look at the events as they play out in the books, Voldemort did in fact flee while he was in Dumbledore water cage.
In the films it was shown for Voldemort, fleed after seeing his assault failed and Dumbledore was still standing.
It will be interesting to see how Dumbledore and Grindlewald shape up in these upcoming movies.
I argue based off the films alone, sport. Voldemort looked superior while Albus had the benefit of the most powerful wand whereas it's the other way around when he faced Grindelwald. Voldemort changed tactics to go after Harry his true target. He dictated the terms and the tone of the duel.
I expect their duel to be amazing but it won't detract from the greatest wizards placement in the universe aka Voldemort.
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Then you can go back to the MVF cause here in this forum the books reign supreme. We've had this discussion and I've told you why he pouts you just made are not showings that prove Voldemort>Dumbledore.
This duel won't display that Grindlewald>Voldemort because it's been established that Voldemort>Grindlewald. However this duel between Dumbledore and Grindlewald of done correctly will be better than Dumbledore vs Grindlewald due to the weight and magnitude it holds and represents.
Would albus be considered a better duelist in his youth? If so, prime dumbledore vs grindelwald might be more impressive than old dumbledore vs voldemort.
I don't see how Dumbledore could be a better duelist in his youth; his command over magic is never greater than in the original Harry Potter series when he duels Tom. The speed edge a younger Dumbledore might have is countered by the power and knowledge advantage the elder Dumbledore possesses.
All he need do is erect a barrier similar to the one in the Tom battle. Dumbledore is in his prime in the Harry Potter series.
I do not care I debate based off the films alone. Take it or leave it.
So you believe the duel between Dumbledore and Grindelwald will be better than the duel between Dumbledore and Grindelwald. You wonder why it hurts my brain to decipher your sub par posts.
Voldemort was the greatest threat the wizarding world had ever seen. This is a big deal just not as big as the Voldemort threat.
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Then you will be lost when I bring up book evidence. To each his own.
I believe it will be or at least should be portrayed better, not that Grindlewald is more powerful than Voldemort. This battle was described by many at the time as the greatest wizarding duel ever seen after all. Dumbledore battle with Voldemort didn't last nearly as long as Dumbledore and Grindlewalds.
Irrelevant to the point of Dumbledore vs Voldemort .
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Nov 24th, 2016 06:15 PM
. Agree with this.
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