Not sure how many have seen this but check at 27:00
Luke says he and his entire order or at they very least those present will need their full strength combined to defeat Ragnos if he were resurrected. No real reason to doubt Luke honestly, where would Ragnos fit in your scaling with this revelation? This is 11 ABY Luke in case you guys do not know.
__________________ "Vader's pulse and breathing were machine-regulated, so they could not quicken; but something in his chest became more electric around his meetings with the Emperor; he could not say how. A feeling of fullness, of power, of dark and demon mastery -- of secret lusts, unrestrained passion, wild submission -- all these things were in Vader's heart as he neared his Emperor. These things and more."
Oh I see, well to stir a debate would either of you say this quote indicates Ragnos>Vader?
__________________ "Vader's pulse and breathing were machine-regulated, so they could not quicken; but something in his chest became more electric around his meetings with the Emperor; he could not say how. A feeling of fullness, of power, of dark and demon mastery -- of secret lusts, unrestrained passion, wild submission -- all these things were in Vader's heart as he neared his Emperor. These things and more."
Not necessarily. Luke's own word is only so reliable since he doesn't really know Ragnos, and he has a habit for exaggerating threats and underplaying himself too.
But I just remembered that I haven't added this to my Ragnos thread, so I'll do that.
The likes of Nyax at least don't get bested by a padawan lol.
But yeah, at least NR is full of hyperbole accolades by Luke, most of which are reconnected.
Edit: DC bringing up TFU in such a debate? Really?
Luke is really modest ain't he? He's this all powerful Jedi, yet he keeps underplaying himself and propping up threats lol. I mean I get Luke, ya don't wanna fall to the darkside but man you don't gotta think so low of yourself all the time.
__________________ "Commence primary ignition."
Last edited by Zenwolf on Feb 1st, 2017 at 03:46 PM
Luke is referring to fully revived Marka Ragnos. That could perhaps translate to him considering A living Ragnos to be a major threat. This makes more sense considering the legends he could have heard from Vodo and Exar, etc.
Jaden never defeated a fully resurrected Ragnos, he defeated Ragnos' Spirit and Avatar, Tavion. So I doubt the quote applies to the Ragnos that got destroyed by a Thirteen year old.
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I wouldn't say Ragnos was resurrected. His spirit was able to manifest itself and possess Tavion sure, but that's not resurrection really, that's normal Sith spirit kind of stuff. So all Jaden did was defeat the weakened spirit of Ragnos, not Ragnos in his full glory.