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Maul's growth as a duelist

Apparently the short duel is representative of both Maul and Kenobi's growth as swordsman...

https://youtu.be/8eIZsJsck7A?t=505


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"When you've fought someone many times and are faced off you kinda know each others moves. So if you think about it the build up to this confrontation to the actual lightsabers hitting each other is actually longer because their basically playing it out in their heads."

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As I said yesterday, it's quite literally predicting what the other guy will do. Obi-Wan won because Maul gave himself to emotion and made a rash play that Obi-Wan was specifically anticipating.

It has nothing to do with who handles a lightsaber better, just who is more in control of their head.

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RIP Godnobi. Ahsoka stomps 10/10.


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Originally posted by SunRazer
As I said yesterday, it's quite literally predicting what the other guy will do. Obi-Wan won because Maul gave himself to emotion and made a rash play that Obi-Wan was specifically anticipating.

It has nothing to do with who handles a lightsaber better, just who is more in control of their head.
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No Maul is just trash tier


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No. U guys are in denial. Godnobi is a thing. Deal with it.


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Originally posted by SunRazer
As I said yesterday, it's quite literally predicting what the other guy will do. Obi-Wan won because Maul gave himself to emotion and made a rash play that Obi-Wan was specifically anticipating.

It has nothing to do with who handles a lightsaber better, just who is more in control of their head.

Kenobi being the more calm/collected fighter and being better at anticipating still puts him above maul, obviously though the gaps not nearly as big as the length of time would indicate.

Also, given kenobi's connection to the force depeened, with them being very good fighters as a reason for how short the fight was, and maul having gained knowledge/showcased new abilities and having been able to fight evenly with a challenger to vader in his prime, logically this would be maul and kenobi's prime which bodes well for vader.

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Kenobi being the more calm/collected fighter and being better at anticipating still puts him above maul, obviously though the gaps not nearly as big as the length of time would indicate.

Also, given kenobi's connection to the force depeened, with them being very good fighters as a reason for how short the fight was, and maul having gained knowledge/showcased new abilities and having been able to fight evenly with a challenger to vader in his prime, logically this would be maul and kenobi's prime which bodes well for vader.


Why would it be their prime? Sure Maul gained knowledge, but how does that translate to a physical prime body? Who's to say in his younger state, he wouldn't be able to do the same martial wise?


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What? I'm not debating who is more powerful or skilled. I'm saying this contest has nothing to do with how good they are at wielding a lightsaber. It was entirely down to mindset, as I said and as Filoni said.

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No Maul is just trash tier
u thought Maul was done but he's been given a second chance, best prepare the damage control sleamo.


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Why would it be their prime? Sure Maul gained knowledge, but how does that translate to a physical prime body? Who's to say in his younger state, he wouldn't be able to do the same martial wise?

Because their fight being incredibly short is attributed to both being very good fighters which would suggest they grew as duelists from back when their fights were drawn out.

And Gaining knwoledge usually translates with power growth.

Also, holistically as a duelist, fighting evenly with a challenge for prime vader(ahsoka) is better than anything from tcw

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Because their fight being incredibly short is attributed to both being very good fighters which would suggest they grew as duelists from back when their fights were drawn out.

And Gaining knwoledge usually translates with power growth.

Also, holistically as a duelist, fighting evenly with a challenge for prime vader(ahsoka) is better than anything from tcw


Right good fighters, not denying that they are and not denying their wasn't a power growth. But physically I mean, they wouldn't be in their prime.


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Originally posted by SunRazer
As I said yesterday, it's quite literally predicting what the other guy will do. Obi-Wan won because Maul gave himself to emotion and made a rash play that Obi-Wan was specifically anticipating.

It has nothing to do with who handles a lightsaber better, just who is more in control of their head.
So is Dooku more calm and collected than Kenobi? Or does that come down to who's the better swordsman?


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Dooku is a better swordsman than Kenobi, yes. In Rebels Maul vs Obi-Wan, it's not necessarily clear as to who's better.

Attempting to draw a parallel between the two is outright stupid. Obi-Wan never charged Dooku stupidly in a rush of emotion. Except in the comic, but then Dooku KO'd him in one hit. smile

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Btw, anyone else notice that Obi still had a touch of brown in his beard?


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Right good fighters, not denying that they are and not denying their wasn't a power growth. But physically I mean, they wouldn't be in their prime.

There's such thing as force augmentation


And I was talking overall as duelists. The dude says that really good fighters have short fights as a reason for the shortness of their fight in rebels compared to the other more drawn out affairs which would imply that they've become more skilled or improved as duelists.

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There's such thing as force augmentation


And I was talking overall as duelists. The dude says that really good fighters have short fights as a reason for the shortness of their fight in rebels compared to the other more drawn out affairs which would imply that they've become more skilled or improved as duelists.


Well yeah, but a young blood could also use Force augmentation.

I suppose.


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Re: Maul's growth as a duelist

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Originally posted by UCanShootMyNova
Apparently the short duel is representative of both Maul and Kenobi's growth as swordsman...

https://youtu.be/8eIZsJsck7A?t=505

He's referring to Kenobi.


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Originally posted by SunRazer
Dooku is a better swordsman than Kenobi, yes. In Rebels Maul vs Obi-Wan, it's not necessarily clear as to who's better.

Attempting to draw a parallel between the two is outright stupid. Obi-Wan never charged Dooku stupidly in a rush of emotion. Except in the comic, but then Dooku KO'd him in one hit. smile

You're stretching this, Kenobi being calm and collected and being able to outwit maul make shim the better fighter which is why he won.
And I'm not sure where you're getting "stupid rush of emotion". Maul tried to do what he did vs qui gon and kenobi anticipated maul and won the fight. Maul screaming is what darksiders do.

Kenobi's emotional state being better, makes him better. Kenobi won because he was calm and focused like a jedi, maul was enraged and angry like a sith.

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