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Originally posted by DarthAnt66
"A trembling shape up and to his left chose that moment to give way, showering molten fragments all along the spine of the ship. The primary array was no great loss: he couldn't have heard anyone anyway over the racket in his ears. But the forward turbolasers and primary sensor unit, the next two chunks to go, were more of a concern... Several lower decks peeled back and were swept away, including the bridge. Most of the short-range array was gone, leaving him with just the base to hold him steady. He clenched his hands into fists and willed the ship to keep going... With a bone-jarring crack, the spine connecting fore and aft sections of the frigate snapped clean through. Starkiller reached out with the Force, trying desperately to keep the two pieces together, but nothing could be done... The fore section he stood upon was going to come down among them, doing a considerable amount of damage in the process."

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nah.

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Originally posted by Geistalt
Now I agree it's as big as a 150-meter frigate.

Thanks for clearing that up.

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Originally posted by Geistalt
Scourge (SWTOR): Darth Marr (Consume Essence notwithstanding; with that ability, he could probably border on Dooku's tier).

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Originally posted by Azronger
Who do the following characters compare to the closest in sabers, Force, and all-out? Comparisons to the movie era would be best.

-Darth Nyriss

-novel Scourge

-prime Scourge

-Darth Thanaton

-Darth Baras

-Darth Jadus

-Darth Malgus

-Hope Satele Shan

-KotFE Satele Shan

-Foundry Revan

-SoR Revan

-KotFE Ch.1 Outlander

-KotET Ch.9 Outlander

-KotET Lana Beniko

-Senya

-Arcann

-chained Vaylin

-unchained Vaylin

-novel Vitiate (no amp)

-novel Vitiate (on Dromund Kaas)

-TOR Vitiate

-Valkorion's spirit

-prime Valkorion

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Originally posted by TenebrousWay
[B]Thanaton - Trash/Slightly below Ventress/?

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Jadus - Dunno/Dooku-Vader/Dunno

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Darth Malgus - Around Maul/Around Dooku/Around Dooku

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Hope Satele - ??/Around Ventress/

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KotFE Outlander ch 1 - Ventress/ ??/ Around Opress

KotET Outlander ch 9 - Around Kenobi/??/ Around Dooku

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Arcann - Same as Malgus

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unchained Vaylin - ??/Above Vader/ ??

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Originally posted by slayne
Can't place Nyriss because of what Wollf said. The novel was horsesh!t in every aspect.

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Originally posted by slayne
TOR Vitiate is ~ RotS Sidious, slightly below probably.

Valkorion's spirit is TPM Sidious-level.

Valkorion himself is ~ RotJ Sidious, slightly better probably.

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Originally posted by slayne
As in you described the reason why Scourge & Nyriss were so hard to rank during their novel incarnations.

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Originally posted by slayne
[B]FE Malgus is about equal to Dooku.

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KotFE Satele is around SoD Maul.

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SoR Revan is ~ Plagueis, probably slightly below.

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KotFE Chapter 1 Outlander is about Galen-level.

KotET Chapter 9 Outlander is ~ normal-state-of-mind RotS Anakin, assuming he's Darkside.

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Senya is ~ TCW S5 Obi Wan.

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Arcann is ~ Dooku.

Chained Vaylin is ^

Unchained Vaylin is > ANH Vader

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Novel Vitiate unamped is around TPM Sidious level (beginning of TPM)

Amped Novel Vitiate is ~ Darth Plagueis, slightly below probably.

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TOR Vitiate is ~ RotS Sidious, slightly below probably.

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Valkorion's spirit is TPM Sidious-level.

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Valkorion himself is ~ RotJ Sidious, slightly better probably.

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Jadus - Held his damaged dreadnought together.

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Malgus - Is stated to have a flawless lightsaber form by HoT (who is a battlemaster and, as expected, should've the knowledge to proper analyze it), is stated to be an "exemplary warrior with unduplicated battlefield feats" by Sidious. You know very well this accolade is under rated, Az. His force feats while significantly pre-prime are already extraordinary, too.

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Hope Satele - Blowing up an entire cliffside seems to be Ventress tier to me. Note that it's only force wise. She's obviously inferior in sabers.

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Outlander - Around Kenobi in sabers and around Dooku as a general combatant. Tanking Vaylin unchained maelstrom is an excellent feat considering her ship busting abilities.

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Arcann - Dominated newbie Outlander in the Force and sabers.

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Vaylin - (multiple) ship busting force powers and one-shotted Arcann + Senya while veteran Outlander had the moral help from Valkorion to whitstand her powers. Note it's force only.