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Frieza - God of destruction

Would Frieza make a good God of Destruction?

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He beat Vegeta by blowing up the Earth, and made Beerus undo it.

So yeah. How many planets has Beerus even destroyed lately?


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Frieza would be such a tyrant he'd make Beerus look like a cake walk. Beerus has a temper but he's got a good sense of duty also. I feel like Frieza would just rip into the universe.


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No, he'd make a terrible god of destruction. But it'd nonetheless be good writing if he maneuvered himself into becoming one as a result of the tournament.

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He'd make a terrible God of Destruction but I mean, Kaoishin makes a terrible God of Creation so it would even out. The last remaining 28 planets of life would be gone


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Terrible.

We now know part of a god of destruction's role is to destroy the "weak" planets/mortals.

Frieza tends more to destroy stronger races that he fears has potential. He likes to rule over weaker beings. So with Frieza as GoD, you would likely end up with an even weaker universe.

If we are talking strength-wise, he would still be terrible. As strong as he is, right now he is nowhere near Beerus/Champa, and presumably other GoDs.


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Well, Toriyama did say that Freeza will never catch up with Beerus, no matter how much he trains.

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Oh yeah, training for four months to leap from base SSJ to SSJ Blue+, and never getting stronger then anyone else ever makes perfect sense.

Didn't he say the same thing about Beerus? And here we have someone even stronger then him fighting in the tournament, meaning Goku will need to do something to beat him..


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Oh yeah, training for four months to leap from base SSJ to SSJ Blue+, and never getting stronger then anyone else ever makes perfect sense.

Didn't he say the same thing about Beerus? And here we have someone even stronger then him fighting in the tournament, meaning Goku will need to do something to beat him..


I just know he said Freeza can never catch up with Beerus no matter what and said that he doesn't have intentions of Goku catching up with Beerus anytime soon (so for Goku there is potential to catch up with Beerus... but we know there is a really a huge gap between Goku and Beerus).

Freeza also struggled and was clearly exhausted with Sidra energy, an energy Sidra created with completely no effort. There is also a huge between Freeza and Sidra.

So let us see if Whis words were really true.

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Oh yeah, training for four months to leap from base SSJ to SSJ Blue+, and never getting stronger then anyone else ever makes perfect sense.

Didn't he say the same thing about Beerus? And here we have someone even stronger then him fighting in the tournament, meaning Goku will need to do something to beat him..
Trying to think. Is the frieza thing the biggest jump in power in the shortest time?

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Goku going from raditz to vegeta was a massive jump as well. Wasn't goku at a power level of 300 and he maxed at 20000 against vegeta?

Then from 20,000 to 180,000 a week later on namek. Than the ginyu /vegeta beatdown put him somewhere near the million mark before the ssj transformation.


I think the weakest jump goku ever had was the three years training for the androids


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Trying to think. Is the frieza thing the biggest jump in power in the shortest time?
Yes, by far.

With just 4 months of self-training, Freeza jumped from decisively below n00b-SSJ-level(and remember, he was even weaker than that when first resurrected), to nearly SSB/God-level. Heck, even when the Z Fighters sensed the power of Freeza's post-training base form, they acted like it was the most powerful ki they had EVER sensed.

Suffice to say: the gains Freeza made in that 4 months are so far above any other character in the series that it's hard to even fathom. And remember: he made those gains solely on his own -- he didn't receive external amps/boosts like Mystic Gohan and SSG Goku did.



*As for this thread: Freeza would make a TERRIBLE God of Destruction. That role is all about balance... As irrational as Beerus can come off at times, he still seems to comprehend that on some level(Whis certainly does.) Freeza wouldn't care about balance -- his only goal(s) would be to enslave the universe/multiverse... Or destroy it. The only thing that might prevent Freeza from doing so is if he, like Beerus, also had a 'keeper' more powerful than himself who could intervene when need be.


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Yes, by far.

With just 4 months of self-training, Freeza jumped from decisively below n00b-SSJ-level(and remember, he was even weaker than that when first resurrected), to nearly SSB/God-level. Heck, even when the Z Fighters sensed the power of Freeza's post-training base form, they acted like it was the most powerful ki they had EVER sensed.

Suffice to say: the gains Freeza made in that 4 months are so far above any other character in the series that it's hard to even fathom. And remember: he made those gains solely on his own -- he didn't receive external amps/boosts like Mystic Gohan and SSG Goku did.



*As for this thread: Freeza would make a TERRIBLE God of Destruction. That role is all about balance... As irrational as Beerus can come off at times, he still seems to comprehend that on some level(Whis certainly does.) Freeza wouldn't care about balance -- his only goal(s) would be to enslave the universe/multiverse... Or destroy it. The only thing that might prevent Freeza from doing so is if he, like Beerus, also had a 'keeper' more powerful than himself who could intervene when need be.
True but Just trying to think. In the time between the raditz fight and the namek fight (a little over a year ) goku went from a power level of 350 - over a million. That multiplier is insane when you actually don't pay attention to the episode standard and just to the time thats stated. Even if you count the jump frieza made percentage wise im not sure its that wide.


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Percentage-wise, it's still nowhere near jumping from a PL <12m, to a PL that is in the God-tier. Moreover, Freeza doesn't receive zankais from battle/training like the Saiyans did, yet he still managed a gain THAT substantial in 4-effing-months.

Hard to even wrap your head around something like that, when nothing in the franchise even approaches it. blink


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True but Just trying to think. In the time between the raditz fight and the namek fight (a little over a year ) goku went from a power level of 350 - over a million. That multiplier is insane when you actually don't pay attention to the episode standard and just to the time thats stated. Even if you count the jump frieza made percentage wise im not sure its that wide.


Yep...within a 2 yr gap, his power level went from 300 to the trillions. Vegeta as well. His rage amp took him from super Saiyan 2 levels to having power that far exceeds Super Saiyan 3.


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Percentage-wise, it's still nowhere near jumping from a PL <12m, to a PL that is in the God-tier. Moreover, Freeza doesn't receive zankais from battle/training like the Saiyans did, yet he still managed a gain THAT substantial in 4-effing-months.

Hard to even wrap your head around something like that, when nothing in the franchise even approaches it. blink
Specially seeing how in four months he jumped higher than a power that took Goku 12 years to achieve after, with Zenkai and constant training abandoning his family. I mean sure, 32,000 at max in Saiyan Saga to 150 million is a big jump but not anywhere near what freeza did. And after that we really don't know how big his jumps go.


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Talking about destruction... what Black did Freeza can only dream of. And now even in manga it seems Black is becoming a real deal.

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Do we have an actual canon power multiplier for Gold form?

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True but Just trying to think. In the time between the raditz fight and the namek fight (a little over a year ) goku went from a power level of 350 - over a million. That multiplier is insane when you actually don't pay attention to the episode standard and just to the time thats stated. Even if you count the jump frieza made percentage wise im not sure its that wide.


Goku's power at rest was at 350, but when he was charging his kamehameha it jumped to the thousands. If I remember right, He also took a significant jump just from taking off his weighted t-shirt. Powerlevels are inaccurate, especially with earthlings

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Talking about destruction... what Black did Freeza can only dream of.


What, get beat up by Vegeta?

Vegeta and Goku became > Black.


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What is that gold form anyways?

Freeza's other transformation are permenant, in the sense he can't be knocked out of it or expend any effort maintaining them. While the Gold form was treated more like a conventional SSJ upgrade, dropping off when he became exausted..

It's unusual for him, considering how his transfomations are usually treated.


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