These are all the domains we see him attack in the original run and the spin-offs. There are no attacks on alternate Earths or timelines, the attacks are all confined to realms associated with the 616 Universe.
The main argument for the attack being multiversal is this quote by Amadeus Cho.
The fact that Amadeus or Hercules refers to the 616 Universe as a multiverse means jack-shit, because they're not talking about the Marvel Multiverse, and this is made clear in the story. Of course, I'm fully aware of the fact that this won't stop fanboys from ripping panels out of context, ignore the story, and present their own headcanon of how Skyfathers are multiversal threats, and tell me that I'm just a hater.
Last edited by Astner on Nov 10th, 2019 at 08:24 PM
Great post Astner. It says the greatest threat that this Multiverse has ever seen. But it still never clearly tells the reader what level of power he was at. The only statement that could be quoted concerning his power levels came when he was directly compared to Eternity.
Technically you can call it a multiverse, because it's not just a regular universe, it's also a bunch of pocket dimensions. But this is like calling the Dragon Ball Universe a multiverse because it has an afterlife. It makes sense, but it's not how the term is used here.
When we refer to the Marvel Multiverse, we're referring to the infinite portfolio of Alternate Earths. We see this in Time Runs Out with White Panther.
It's clear that this is a character from a different Earth than the 616. So this is clearly a different category of multiverse than the one referred to in Chaos War.
The problem is that a lot of people are too lazy to read the stories and instead latch on to semantics used rather than feats.
Last edited by Astner on Nov 10th, 2019 at 09:52 PM
CK still win this fight after all he was still defeated only via bfr
He was powerful enough to drive Death out of underworld, beating Impossible Man. I get that making skyfathers and Galactus his ***** is not all that, but those 2 feats I mentioned make him beyond universal level.
Chaos War was just inconsistent, Cho has used the term multiverse multiple times saying they saved the multiverse and Chaos King destroyed 98 something percent of the multiverse
and Herc said he repaired the "universe" after they won, maybe the arthor was using multiverse and universe interchangeably (sort of like the case with Lucifer)
So really either arguments can be made, also if we view 616 as a multiverse (as in putting all the realms and pocket dimensions as seperate realities) then yeah maybe Chaos King did only destroy 616
Barbatos on the other hand got his body blow through by hawkgirl with nth metal and eventually chained up. Barbatos is wildly inconsistence. By his status, his power should dwarf the 52 universes by infinity, Dark Multiverse is infinite. But he did not rack up any feats before his low fashion defeat
He didn't drive death out of the underworld. He simply freed the dead by destroying the underworld.
Multiverse is used interchangeably with universe, and in this story it's referring to the 616 Universe and the various realms associated with it.
In Vertigo's Lucifer—which has nothing to do with Chaos War—Lucifer recreated God's creation in its totality. The fact that it's referred to as a universe or multiverse means nothing, because we know what it is: a duplicate of the creation the Presence presides over.
Skyfather-level beings like Odin and Galactus can threaten the universe as well, just as the Chaos King did. It's going to be a campaign, because it's not something they can do with the snap of a finger, and it's not certain that they're going to succeed, but they can do it.
But it's clear from the story that the Chaos King is a skyfather-level character, because he was defeated by All-Father Hercules and no opponent he fought was greater than skyfather-level.
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