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Surtur
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Knowing exposing others to HIV is no longer a felony in California


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Also includes people who donate blood and do not disclose they have HIV. Just awesome. I know some leftist here will try to defend this, I know it. I await the insanity.


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HIV The Disease of Love.


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Some interesting points in that article.

"HIV has been the only communicable disease for which exposure is a felony under California law. The current law, Wiener argued, may convince people not to be tested for HIV, because without a test they cannot be charged with a felony if they expose a partner to the infection."

Why is HIV the only one where it's a felony? Seems dumb. If anything they should make intentionally exposing people to any serious infectious disease a felony.


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Some interesting points in that article.

"HIV has been the only communicable disease for which exposure is a felony under California law. The current law, Wiener argued, may convince people not to be tested for HIV, because without a test they cannot be charged with a felony if they expose a partner to the infection."

Why is HIV the only one where it's a felony? Seems dumb. If anything they should make intentionally exposing people to any serious infectious disease a felony.


Do you think intentionally exposing someone to HIV should be a felony?


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Yes I do. I think if anything it should be expanded to include other diseases.

That said, I do also see how it could be difficult to prosecute. It would essentially be one person's word against the other's. How do you really prove that one person didn't consent to intercourse even after being told?


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That I agree with.


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Now in California you can potentially suffer more from using the wrong pronoun than you could intentionally infecting someone with HIV.

Why does this state deserve to be taken seriously?


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Sadly the Pronoun Misuse will probably become a Felony but the HIV thing won't.


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What boggles the mind is how these people see themselves as morally superior to everyone else lol.


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Being a Hypocrite takes care of that.


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You have to take the good with the bad with Cali unfortunately. We may have some weird/dumb laws pass, but also some good ones pass as well.

For instance, recently it was signed into law that it is no longer legal for pet stores to sell dogs that they bought from puppy mills. All dogs must now be rescue dogs.

Also the first year of community college is now free from tuition.

Also weed is legal, or will be soon, I guess.


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I saw the pet stuff, that is cool, but it's kinda pointless when you live in a state you can go to jail for using the wrong pronoun.

Let us hope the new pet owners don't think the wrong thoughts or say the wrong things.


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Only in California. Insane. Please make sure your partner signs a disclosure form before 'mingling'.


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Originally posted by BackFire
Why is HIV the only one where it's a felony? Seems dumb. If anything they should make intentionally exposing people to any serious infectious disease a felony.



quote: (post)
Originally posted by Surtur
Do you think intentionally exposing someone to HIV should be a felony?



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Originally posted by BackFire
Yes I do. I think if anything it should be expanded to include other diseases.

That said, I do also see how it could be difficult to prosecute. It would essentially be one person's word against the other's. How do you really prove that one person didn't consent to intercourse even after being told?


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That I agree with.



I enjoyed reading this very short conversation. Great point from Backfire and Surtur's concern is satisfactorily addressed. Every one of us agrees with Backfire.


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I Every one of us agrees with Backfire.



Yes It does sound HORRIBLE don't it.


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I'm glad you all agree with my point that having sex with corpses should remain legal and federally funded.


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I just await someone to defend this. Knowing this board I think there are some who would agree, I wonder if they will come out and admit it.


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You have to take the good with the bad with Cali unfortunately. We may have some weird/dumb laws pass, but also some good ones pass as well.


Right. Off topic, but I like the law about what overtime really is. More than 8 hours, overtime. Instead of more than 40 hours, it's more than 8 hours in a day.

This stopped some very abusive practices and almost gerrymandering-like schedule packing and cracking to skirt around the 40 hour overtime cutoff.


I had to deal with the 8 hour rule when standing up an IT Site in LA. We had to do scheduling for a very large IT contract of the Federal Government. No overtime was allowed on the contract because the federal government peeps didn't want to pay it. So I had to staff in a way that satisfied the labor laws in all 3 sites I stood up.

It was certainly a logic puzzle of f*ckering in the beginning. But after I saw how abusive some of the other contracts could get with their 40 hour work week, it made sense. One of my employees, after someone reported the abusive cracking and packing of the schedules to get around the 40 hour a week limit, actually got a $6000 paycheck for back pay on overtime worked. He was a good employee. Came into work, did his job, and went home. But his time was certainly abused to get around the 40 hour thing.

So, yes, I agree with the 8 hour rule that CA has. It is a labor law put into place to protect exploited employees. Can't schedule someone to work two 16 hour days in a row but get around having to pay overtime just because the "work week" started anew! big grin Brilliant and wonderful labor law.


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