Is that the computing forever video? Yeah, it's just odd. Seems some are trying to do anything they can to avoid a brexit. My thing is, if the choice for brexit had lost and the "remain" side had won...it seems to me like they'd be throwing an utter temper tantrum if the "leave" side was still trying to push for a brexit and trying to push for do overs, etc.
But since the "leave" side won, it seems the remainers are trying to do anything and everything they can to weasel out of brexit.
If they end up weaseling out of it, why should any of the citizens take any future votes seriously? They have no guarantees the winning side will actually..win lol.
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He gives a very good example of a referendum in Ireland that was held before Brexit voting. Basically, the referendum was repeated until the EU got the result it wanted. There were other similar cases like that. IIRC one was in France.
I don't even get the point of a vote if the folks who lost can scream "do over!" and actually get one. I don't even care if the winning side wins by only 1 vote. The only reason to have another vote is if somehow both sides got the exact same number of votes.
But for people who scream for do overs...if they actually got a do over and then they get the result they wanted, can anyone explain why the losing side would not also be able to call for a do over...over the results of the do over?
Yet something tells me if they got a 2nd brexit vote, and the remain side won...they'd throw an utter fit if the leave side started calling for yet another do over.
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That's what I heard, that many people voted based out of ignorance or being told lies. The promises given by the pro side where empty.
What was most telling for me, was after the vote and Brexit won, even the people who were behind it had an "oh shit, what now!" attitude. I think it was Boris Johnson who gave the victory speech and he looked like he was speaking at a funeral.
Just a point that I've made before: a referendum is not a definitive vote, it is just a way of gauging the public's political opinion.
Also, yeah, it makes sense why people are trying to 'weasel out' of Brexit. I'd happily weasel out of it, considering that I want to work in the film industry, and that Brexit will likely break the independent film industry in the UK because we get a shitload (i.e., most) of our funding from the EU.
If it was a definitive vote then sure I'd accept it flat-out, but it wasn't, it was a referendum, and 2% either way is not a particularly smart way of deciding who won. There should have had to have been a 5% swing either way. You have to remember that the 'losing side' is literally half of the country, it's not just some small pocket of resistance. A no-deal Brexit could ruin this country financially, so deciding that fate due to a 2% swing on a non-binding public referendum is really dumb.
And if they have a referendum and the remain side wins, and someone from the leave side demands another referendum, that occurs, correct? As long as the answer is yes, cool
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If either side won by less than 5%, there should have been a second referendum either 6 or 12 months after the first one, and they should have kept going until one side or the other won by a margin of 5% or higher. That seems to make sense to me, but that isn't what happened, they seriously jumped the gun on such a big decision.
Yeah, I'm being generous with 5%. It's a huge decision for the country to make, one that's consequences will last for a very long time, so deciding that on the back of an initial referendum with just a 2% margin of victory/loss is honestly really bad political form.
Yep, the governing party can't even sort their our cabinet out at the moment, let alone tackle something as complex and multifaceted as Brexit. That's one of the main reasons I still oppose Brexit: I don't trust our government to make the best of it.
And if you never get someone winning by more than 5%...? How long does it go on and where is the line drawn?
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