Never let anyone else define you. Don't be a jerk just to be a jerk, but if you are expressing your true inner feelings and beliefs, or at least trying to express that inner child, and everyone gets pissed off about it, never NEVER apologize for it. Let them think what they want, let them define you in their narrow little minds while they suppress every last piece of them just to keep a friend that never liked them for themselves in the first place.
He tanked being engulfed in flames by Black Hand, who stole the powers of five lanterns, and then proceeded to beat him down without using his ring.
He also physically bent bars on a construct Guy Garder made, that was strong enough to contain a group of GL's who needed to combine their will to destroy it...
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Never let anyone else define you. Don't be a jerk just to be a jerk, but if you are expressing your true inner feelings and beliefs, or at least trying to express that inner child, and everyone gets pissed off about it, never NEVER apologize for it. Let them think what they want, let them define you in their narrow little minds while they suppress every last piece of them just to keep a friend that never liked them for themselves in the first place.
Supes was struggling with Mammoth back then. Got taken out by the Fearsome Five, even.
__________________ What CDTM believes;
Never let anyone else define you. Don't be a jerk just to be a jerk, but if you are expressing your true inner feelings and beliefs, or at least trying to express that inner child, and everyone gets pissed off about it, never NEVER apologize for it. Let them think what they want, let them define you in their narrow little minds while they suppress every last piece of them just to keep a friend that never liked them for themselves in the first place.
I never saw Ben as a scrub man. If he was ever at the losing end it was due to him being put up against guys well above his weight class like his titanic battles against the Hulk. Him losing to the Juggernaut isn't a poor showing either. This is the same guy that got hammered on by the Champion, and he's the same guy that later became a Galactic heavy weight wrestling champion. Ben is in Sasquatch's weight class, and he made Sasquatch comment about how hard he punched with those savage fists of his.
Who did the Black Hand defeat with his bare hands though? IMO this is Ben's fight to lose. Look at all of his decades of history. Can you even begin to compare them in terms of feat numbers? This may not be a stomp, which isn't what I ever suggested, but Ben is powerhouse in his own right.
Kilowog powered through energy attacks to get his hands on him.
Because using his ring only empowered him. It's a raw toughness feat.
__________________ What CDTM believes;
Never let anyone else define you. Don't be a jerk just to be a jerk, but if you are expressing your true inner feelings and beliefs, or at least trying to express that inner child, and everyone gets pissed off about it, never NEVER apologize for it. Let them think what they want, let them define you in their narrow little minds while they suppress every last piece of them just to keep a friend that never liked them for themselves in the first place.
Do you really think that Kilowog would be able to physically defeat a guy that has gone toe to toe with Namor, or the Hulk? refused to go down when being pounded on by the Champion of the Universe? You want to talk about tough? Ben has typically been portrayed throughout the years as being a bit stronger than Kilowog IMO.
I wouldn't so sure that Mongul beats Namor. If not for the laser vision of Hyperion Namor was holding his own. Not to mention Namor having defeated Hulk, easily beating Ironman during the Illuminati mess. Namor would give Mongul hell, considering he did go toe to toe against Sentry and wasn't outright trounced. He was also given props by Blue Marvel. Namor like Mongul are a slight step away from top tier. That says a lot about Ben BTW.
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