Re: Are Gender Identify and Sexuality Directly Linked?
Let's add one more.
5) Should an age of consent be given for an individual to change their gender previously designated by their biology? Or should we allow children who have difficulty deciding which flavor of Ice Cream they wish to choose a choice against there fundamental biology.
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Why? What specifically do you disagree with?
An 11-year old born as a normal male who has an XY chromosomal pair can identify as a female, if that person chooses. The age of consent law doesn't magically change because of that.
You did? Where? Quote the posts and number them for me because I am too dumb to see it.
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Because I read the whole thread and I do not see them. And I admit that I may be too dumb to understand. This gives you the chance to fully make your points while providing me the opportunity to ask clarifying questions.
If you were genuinely interested in discourse, you'd quote yourself, just like I have.
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DDM, you are well aware of what's there. Now chill pal, we are all in agreement minors should not be allowed to change gender. Your misdirection tactics don't matter their is no gallery, just polarised posters.
By sexuality you mean orientation, and not sex? I'm not sure if know the answers to 1-3.
As for question 5... Maybe an 11 year old can call themselves whatever gender they want.. but the physical transition stuff like hormones and surgery seems a bit irresponsible under a certain age to me.
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I am chill. What, you think your tactics got me bothered? Sorry, you're not that good. Probably no one gets upset around these parts. And the ones that did are no longer with us.
I most certainly do not agree with that.
You've yet to define your use of "gender" and "sex" so how is it possible for us to agree or disagree?
I guess this is a troll attempt or something? I'm too dumb to get it to fall into the trap. Tell me how you want me to react and I'll be a better troll-ee for you.
Question 5: Why the fixation on gender identity anyways?
There's a woman everyone knows about in town, who wasn't born a woman. I had dinner with her (At a party). Talked with friends/family about her. Nobody cared.
Nobody cared what she identified as, or where she went to the bathroom.
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As I pointed out out in the other thread, I just don't need to be involved in everyone's live. Unless they are a friend or family, I'm not going to give two shits.
I really really don't care. Be a man. Be a woman. Whatever. I don't need to know about it unless we have some sort of relationship.
like you said...who cares? Just leave each other alone. Unless you are mutual friends, why get involved in personal things like that?
Well, it also doesn't affect me if people let their young teens drink, smoke or have sex. But I do think that it's somewhat irresponsible regardless, and I support laws against that sort of thing.
Once again I'm more referring to the physical transition that many trans folk decide to undergo. I believe this question is going to be a hot button issue for some time... As there is also a decent argument to be made that the transition will be more effective if you start the process before puberty hits.
And most people here won't suffer much, if at all, from climate change.
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Actually, it does affect you when a teen DUI, smokes, or does other things. Only if the teen does drugs while in a safe environment.
And, no, you're not affected at all when a teen has sex...IIF they have adequate sex education and liberal access to birth control.
Right. Same arguments I made. All the transsexuals I personally know, knew they were the gender that they felt they were, long before puberty. At best the argument, that they are making the wrong decision about their gender, is weak. At worst, it is harmful and bigoted towards the Trans community.
However...I would rather err on the side of caution and be fearful of letting children go under the knife. Instead, allow for delayed puberty options under the watchful care of a physician.
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The problem I have with this as an argument is that it excludes the people who felt confused about their gender identity who were younger who ended up adjusted to their birth sex by adulthood. Like you can say all transgender people felt that way when they were younger, but that doesn't mean everyone who feels that way younger winds up a transgender adult.
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