FYI, swatting is an internet prank/crime where someone finds your address either through your IP (usually through an online video game) or because your name and location is known. Then they call 911 anonymously and report a fake emergency e.g. that someone at that address is being held at a gun point or someone is going to commit suicide and a SWAT team would be dispatched to the address.
It's hard to see clearly what that guy was doing since he was so far away but it looked to me like he had his hands up, lowered them, and then pulled them up in front of himself pointing them forward. I can't tell if he was holding something or not. I can't even tell if that's what actually happened. Just what I made out.
EDIT: Just watched some of the press conference video and looks like that's exactly what happened. This is f*cked up
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Last edited by juggerman on Dec 30th, 2017 at 05:25 PM
Thankfully, the ****er that made the call has been arrested. Swatting in general has been a problem for awhile now, but the fact it led to its first death here is still unacceptable.
Like why would someone do that in front if a policeman.
Everyone knows when you're told to show hands, you show hands.
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As tragic as this is, it really depends on the details.. I mean, a cop who's told he's going in on an armed civilian, is forced to take that at face value.
Because he's the one that gets shot, if it's not a prank. (And he'd have no way of knowing it's a prank..)
That said, if he's at fault somehow, then yeah, something needs to be done.
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Unless the man opened the door holding a gun then the cop shooting him is unacceptable. All accounts are that the man did not have a gun and was shot immediately upon opening the front door of his own house.
So if those accounts are true then the officer is grossly incompetent (a running theme in today's police force, it seems) and needs to not be a police officer anymore and should face time for said incompetence.
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I honestly have no idea how this should have been handled, but in cases where police are dealing with an armed suspect, I assume the officer's right to defend his own life the same as anyone. Shoot before they shoot you.
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No, don't fire unless you see a gun/weapon and the guy with a gun/weapon actually does something threatening. If a person can't handle that then they should not be a cop.
This is a real problem in our parapolicing enviroment.
Kinda wraps back to the officer with the AR-15 that had etched things to show how tough he is with the gun when he killed the guy that was face down on the ground.