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Deadly shooting in Wichita linked to "Swatting"

FYI, swatting is an internet prank/crime where someone finds your address either through your IP (usually through an online video game) or because your name and location is known. Then they call 911 anonymously and report a fake emergency e.g. that someone at that address is being held at a gun point or someone is going to commit suicide and a SWAT team would be dispatched to the address.

Someone finally died because of this shit.

It's only a video game, FFS.

That cop pulled the trigger too soon.


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It's hard to see clearly what that guy was doing since he was so far away but it looked to me like he had his hands up, lowered them, and then pulled them up in front of himself pointing them forward. I can't tell if he was holding something or not. I can't even tell if that's what actually happened. Just what I made out.

EDIT: Just watched some of the press conference video and looks like that's exactly what happened. This is f*cked up


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We need Video Game Console Control.


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Thankfully, the ****er that made the call has been arrested. Swatting in general has been a problem for awhile now, but the fact it led to its first death here is still unacceptable.


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Yeah, but the fat ass hat lives in L.A and he only got a midwesterner killed. So Not even a slap on the wrist. Probably not even Community Service.

Oh wait....He isn't an Illegal. He is white....OK...he MIGHT get some community service.

MIGHT!


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Originally posted by juggerman
It's hard to see clearly what that guy was doing since he was so far away but it looked to me like he had his hands up, lowered them, and then pulled them up in front of himself pointing them forward. I can't tell if he was holding something or not. I can't even tell if that's what actually happened. Just what I made out.

EDIT: Just watched some of the press conference video and looks like that's exactly what happened. This is f*cked up


Yes, and it raises questions.

Like why would someone do that in front if a policeman.

Everyone knows when you're told to show hands, you show hands.


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Yes, and it raises questions.

Like why would someone do that in front if a policeman.

Everyone knows when you're told to show hands, you show hands.



Oh just go with the Racist Cops Answer.


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Cop should be fired and punished with jail time, and the guy who called it in should be sentenced to life in prison.


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Cop should be fired and punished with jail time, and the guy who called it in should be sentenced to life in prison.


Maybe.

As tragic as this is, it really depends on the details.. I mean, a cop who's told he's going in on an armed civilian, is forced to take that at face value.

Because he's the one that gets shot, if it's not a prank. (And he'd have no way of knowing it's a prank..)

That said, if he's at fault somehow, then yeah, something needs to be done.


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Cop should be fired and punished with jail time, and the guy who called it in should be sentenced to life in prison.


Guy who did it is in LA Califunny. That stand don't even hadn out manslaughter when people get killed anymore....well under the right circumstances...


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Maybe.

As tragic as this is, it really depends on the details.. I mean, a cop who's told he's going in on an armed civilian, is forced to take that at face value.

Because he's the one that gets shot, if it's not a prank. (And he'd have no way of knowing it's a prank..)

That said, if he's at fault somehow, then yeah, something needs to be done.


Unless the man opened the door holding a gun then the cop shooting him is unacceptable. All accounts are that the man did not have a gun and was shot immediately upon opening the front door of his own house.

So if those accounts are true then the officer is grossly incompetent (a running theme in today's police force, it seems) and needs to not be a police officer anymore and should face time for said incompetence.


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Do we know what the swat pranker told the cops was going on in the house?


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Do we know what the swat pranker told the cops was going on in the house?



Yes:







"I killed him...I already poured gasoline all over the house. I may light it."


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Unless the man opened the door holding a gun then the cop shooting him is unacceptable. All accounts are that the man did not have a gun and was shot immediately upon opening the front door of his own house.

So if those accounts are true then the officer is grossly incompetent (a running theme in today's police force, it seems) and needs to not be a police officer anymore and should face time for said incompetence.


So don't fire unless fired upon?

I honestly have no idea how this should have been handled, but in cases where police are dealing with an armed suspect, I assume the officer's right to defend his own life the same as anyone. Shoot before they shoot you.


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Well that POS CalifukJob needs to get sent to PoundHimInhTheAss Prison.


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So don't fire unless fired upon?

I honestly have no idea how this should have been handled, but in cases where police are dealing with an armed suspect, I assume the officer's right to defend his own life the same as anyone. Shoot before they shoot you.

How would the cop know it's not one of the hostages opening the door, for example?

EDIT: Jeez, the guy looks like a ****ing alien.


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So don't fire unless fired upon?

I honestly have no idea how this should have been handled, but in cases where police are dealing with an armed suspect, I assume the officer's right to defend his own life the same as anyone. Shoot before they shoot you.


No, don't fire unless you see a gun/weapon and the guy with a gun/weapon actually does something threatening. If a person can't handle that then they should not be a cop.


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No, don't fire unless you see a gun/weapon and the guy with a gun/weapon actually does something threatening. If a person can't handle that then they should not be a cop.


This is a real problem in our parapolicing enviroment.

Kinda wraps back to the officer with the AR-15 that had etched things to show how tough he is with the gun when he killed the guy that was face down on the ground.

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The Police were set up here

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This is a real problem in our parapolicing enviroment.

Kinda wraps back to the officer with the AR-15 that had etched things to show how tough he is with the gun when he killed the guy that was face down on the ground.


Yeah. It is always easy to Backseat Quarterback the types of situations that Cops get into.


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