__________________ Introduce a little government. Upset the established gangs, and everything becomes order...
Democracy is the very definition of awesome.
__________________ Introduce a little government. Upset the established gangs, and everything becomes order...
Democracy is the very definition of awesome.
There is little reason besides Jewish people and Germans BAWing about it that Hitler should be excluded.
The fact that both Stalin and Mao, two leaders who have caused more deaths then Hitler, who is not evil despite common belief, have appeared in the game, yet not him, is retarded.
Hitler is undeniably one of the most well recognized and influential leaders in history.
So the game sucks simply because they don't put in Hitler?
__________________ Introduce a little government. Upset the established gangs, and everything becomes order...
Democracy is the very definition of awesome.
There's a massive stigma following Hitler around(not without a good reason; he was one evil ****er). Stalin, for example, has caused just as many(if not more) deaths, and not in any more humane ways either.
__________________ And from the ashes he rose, like a black cloud. The Sin of one became the Sin of many.
Stalin caused atleast twice as more then Hitler. And he was just as inhumane as Hitler was.
For instance, Stalin caused the deaths of around 3 million Ukrainians via starvation. Can you imagine what it feels like to starve to death? People got so desperate, they killed whoever they could get their hands on, and cannabalized them, even children.
It's hypocritical to include Stalin, yet not Hitler.
For the record, Hitler wasn't evil. He was simply a nationalist. Everything he did, he did for his country. Even the Holocaust. Though, there is a reason why it's called the final solution, and why Hitler spent time thinking of how to get rid of the jews, instead of just ordering them all to be killed (He actually thought of shipping them all off to Palenstine :l )
Abe Lincoln tore the United States apart and caused the most horrific war in North America.
Is he evil?
Truman ordered the A Bombs to be dropped on Hiroshima and Nagaski. This resulted in two of the most horrific events in the history of mankind.
Is he evil?
Hitler genuinely believed that what he was doing was necessary, and that it would help Germany. Even the Holocaust, the single most undeniably evil event attributed to Hitler, was not really decided by him, but by his advisors and staff.
Hitler did quite a few good things for Germany, but went too far. Way too far. He did the wrong things for mostly wrong reasons after coming to the wrong conclusions.
I suppose some similarities between Lincoln and Hitler could drawn if you try hard enough, but Truman and the atomic bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki is a different story altogether.
__________________ And from the ashes he rose, like a black cloud. The Sin of one became the Sin of many.
Just because you believe in what you're doing as necessary doesn't let you off the hook. I bet Stalin believed in what he was doing, too.
Yes, but many more innocent lives would have been extinguished if the war had dragged on. Invasion of mainland Japan would have been a bloodbath of epic proportions.
__________________ And from the ashes he rose, like a black cloud. The Sin of one became the Sin of many.
How about common sense and previous military experience fighting the Japanese? They fought literally to the last man for tiny islands. What do you think would have happened on mainland Japan?
You know, nuclear bombs weren't exactly "unveiled" during the bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki. It's not like Japan wasn't warned. It took two nuked cities for Japan to capitulate and even then there was quite a bit of internal strife on that one. Most of the Japanese military elements were prepared to fight even after two nukes have been dropped on them. Something tells me a mere display of the power of the atomic bomb would not have been enough.
It seems that nobody could truly be labeled as evil according to your logic.
__________________ And from the ashes he rose, like a black cloud. The Sin of one became the Sin of many.
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