There's no proof someone on Goku's level can even challenge him. While Jiren is at least being pressed enough to worry.
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In fact, Beerus casually beat limit breaker Vegeta in the manga.
If he puts up any sort of fight at all against Jiren, this proves Beerus >.
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That was pre-ToP Vegeta right after he(like Goku) 'mastered' SSB... But MSSB is a wholly different form/power than Vegeta's current ASSB. In fact, ASSB is AT LEAST 20x MSSB, given that Vegeta is currently no less than equal to MSSB Goku /w/ KKx20.
Anywho... As of right NOW, there is no concrete evidence that puts Jiren above Beerus, tbh. We *should* know for sure where Jiren stands relative to the Hakaishin once he and MUI Goku fight, however.
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I predict MSSJB will be the Super Kaioken and Limit Breaker Vegeta of the manga.
The point of the anime cheese is to get Goku and Vegeta on the same level. The manga merely skipped the build up and went right to equalizing them.
I don't expect there to be any more powerups until UI.
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Goku was pretty much handling Toppo as Super Saiyan God so he didn't mandhandle Blue. Goku let his guard down thinking he could win easy and then was hit unexpectedly and kicked out of the ring.
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Don't take Crazy Carv seriously, almost every post from him is a troll.
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