Vader goes to face Luke in the carbonite room of Cloud city, when instead he meets the Count of Serrano! Who wins?
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__________________ "Vader's pulse and breathing were machine-regulated, so they could not quicken; but something in his chest became more electric around his meetings with the Emperor; he could not say how. A feeling of fullness, of power, of dark and demon mastery -- of secret lusts, unrestrained passion, wild submission -- all these things were in Vader's heart as he neared his Emperor. These things and more."
__________________ "Vader's pulse and breathing were machine-regulated, so they could not quicken; but something in his chest became more electric around his meetings with the Emperor; he could not say how. A feeling of fullness, of power, of dark and demon mastery -- of secret lusts, unrestrained passion, wild submission -- all these things were in Vader's heart as he neared his Emperor. These things and more."
"[Maul's] power isn’t on Vader’s level, true, or even on Count Dooku’s level — but that never stops him. He stands alongside the Sith Lords only by sheer force of will."
This quote from Jeremy Barlow (author of Son of Dathomir) implies that Vader>Dooku>Maul
Don't buy that statement. Same comic has Maul supporting Talzin to the point her force power becomes strong enough to stalemate Palpatine and Dooku.
If we go by author statements, Lucas said Vader is on Dooku and Mauls level.
__________________ "Vader's pulse and breathing were machine-regulated, so they could not quicken; but something in his chest became more electric around his meetings with the Emperor; he could not say how. A feeling of fullness, of power, of dark and demon mastery -- of secret lusts, unrestrained passion, wild submission -- all these things were in Vader's heart as he neared his Emperor. These things and more."
__________________ RealistRacism: "Sheevites, much like the Banites, were meant to increase in power with each member. From Lightsnake to Gideon to Azronger, this was supposed to be the case. However, knowledge must've been lost in some kind of Gravid-like incident, as Az turned out to be a mid-tier debater with a sub-par track record, sh!itting all over Tempest's legacy. Sad."
No. S3 Savage shouldn't be even use as an example of anything. Dooku, Asajj and even Anakin and Obi-Wan are victims of that overpowered version of Savage. In S3 either Ventress or Dooku are unable to block Savage's blows. His blows combined with his TK is enough to throw away Ventress, Dooku and Anakin and Obi-Wan combined. Then, in S4 Ventress is able to block his blows as is Kenobi. Savage stomps Kenobi in their fight though, with just a Maul's mere presence. His blows are still overpowered somehow. And then, we have S5 Savage. Canon statements tell us, that it's his prime version, yet he's stomped by Maul, Adi Gallia is able to block his blows quite well, she only lost due to his physcical enormous advantage. Later on, he fought Kenobi along with Maul, and got beaten pretty badly before Maul overhelmed Kenobi with TK. Then, with all of his strneght and Maul's support, he was unable to overhelm Kenobi in a saberlock, made a mistake and finally lost his arm.
S5 Savage, prime Savage's version, would never overhelm Dooku.
And when people says, that Vader was the strongest one of those 3, and Maul was stronger then Dooku due to his willpower... well, it's a true, from certain point of viev. Dooku has never seemed to be strong enough, to survive being nearly burnt to the death or cut in half.
But overall, being less powerful in a dark side doesn't mean, being inferior fighter or being less powerfull in the Force overall.
Dooku: I am your father
Vader: No! Oh, wait, I have a deja-vu.
Palpatine: Geez, here we go again.
__________________ RealistRacism: "Sheevites, much like the Banites, were meant to increase in power with each member. From Lightsnake to Gideon to Azronger, this was supposed to be the case. However, knowledge must've been lost in some kind of Gravid-like incident, as Az turned out to be a mid-tier debater with a sub-par track record, sh!itting all over Tempest's legacy. Sad."
Vader has the edge in Force but Dooku is the far greater combatant so it'd be a good fight but nothing suggests that Vader could overcome Dookus battle prowess
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