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8th day juggernaut

who iz 8th day juggernaut and how does he differ from tha original juggernaut.

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The 8th Day was a storyline in which 8 avatars of powerful beings were awakened to battle each other and the winner gets the earth.... Juggernaut was one of the avatars (of Cytorrak) but he had accidentally been awakened years before (by awakened i mean someone had found the item which accessed the power... in his case the gem or "crystal")

7 other people felt this strange pull towards something, each of them found an item and each of them became very powerful in different ways..... but were controlled by their respective entities.... as Juggernauts powers were accessed earlier he hadn't received the full dose of Cytorrak power... when the 8th day began, he gained the rest of the power that was for Cytorraks avatar but Cytorrak attempted to control him like the others were being controlled... he fought back and won.... eventually, with the help of Iron Man, Thor, Xavier and Spider-Man... they stopped the other 7's plans to make the earth a war-zone (by each controlling an 8th of the population)

the other avatars realised they could break free of the control they were under

not entirely sure why Juggernaut has been depowered again though


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The 8th Day was a storyline in which 8 avatars of powerful beings were awakened to battle each other and the winner gets the earth.... Juggernaut was one of the avatars (of Cytorrak) but he had accidentally been awakened years before (by awakened i mean someone had found the item which accessed the power... in his case the gem or "crystal")

7 other people felt this strange pull towards something, each of them found an item and each of them became very powerful in different ways..... but were controlled by their respective entities.... as Juggernauts powers were accessed earlier he hadn't received the full dose of Cytorrak power... when the 8th day began, he gained the rest of the power that was for Cytorraks avatar but Cytorrak attempted to control him like the others were being controlled... he fought back and won.... eventually, with the help of Iron Man, Thor, Xavier and Spider-Man... they stopped the other 7's plans to make the earth a war-zone (by each controlling an 8th of the population)

the other avatars realised they could break free of the control they were under

not entirely sure why Juggernaut has been depowered again though


The power down is linked to the Eighth Day. As Juggernuaght did not suceed in implementin Cytorak's plans, he has greatly diminished his powers. He's still class 100, but he has gone from being about as strong as Namor to as strong as colossus. This is a bid decrease. !!!!!!!!!! His durability is also knowhwere near what it used to be. For example Black Tom was nearly successful at killing him with his secondary mutation.

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what the hell is the story with "secondary mutations"?


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marvel just wanted to revamp all thier characters all at once in a uniform fashion without having things look outta place or having to explain each charcter individually. for example since the start of sec mutation in early 2000, it is accepted across the entire marvel spectrum that Emma frost can turn into diamond...even in the ultimate universe, and that iceman controls moisture down to a molecular level.

you see i believe the goal is to make it so that in the next 5 or ten years of comics, as new readers are attracted they wont even have heard of a thing called a secondary mutation, to them it would be like thats how the charcters were all along


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so why iz he stronger than the original juggernaut. iz it because there 8 of them.

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Look, normal Juggernaut had like 35% of Cyttorak's full power. When he became 8th Day Juggernaut he had 70%, and as Trion juggernaut he had 100%. (current Juggs only has about 5-10%)


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(current Juggs only has about 5-10%)


Probably less than that sad

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Look, normal Juggernaut had like 35% of Cyttorak's full power. When he became 8th Day Juggernaut he had 70%, and as Trion juggernaut he had 100%. (current Juggs only has about 5-10%)
Where did you get those figures from.


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an old comic where it was just a big description of juggernaut. It came out right around the time of Juggernaut: the Eighth day. It wasnt really a comic though, more like a "Handbook of Juggernaut". The title was just called Juggernaut, so it might be hard to find. The part about current Juggs is a guess though.


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an old comic where it was just a big description of juggernaut. It came out right around the time of Juggernaut: the Eighth day. It wasnt really a comic though, more like a "Handbook of Juggernaut". The title was just called Juggernaut, so it might be hard to find. The part about current Juggs is a guess though.
I see yeah I never trust those things because info gets updated and stuff. Since many people place Cyttorak above Skyfather level I normally go by that.


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Cyttorak is a high-level skyfather.


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Cyttorak is a high-level skyfather.
It's hard to say no one really knows his real power level. I mean look at what he has done. His only real feats are that he powers Juggernaut and is invoked bt Dr. Strange and that Strange uses items from him. Other than that his actual power level is unknown for all we know he is below skyfather or could be around Galactus possibly.


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Originally posted by armandovalles
an old comic where it was just a big description of juggernaut. It came out right around the time of Juggernaut: the Eighth day. It wasnt really a comic though, more like a "Handbook of Juggernaut". The title was just called Juggernaut, so it might be hard to find. The part about current Juggs is a guess though.


Thor Quoted that juggernauts strength had increased by 100 fold. Those figures don't really make sense. big grin

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does he look any different or does he look tha same

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He looks the same he is just hundred times stronger than normal.


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The power down is linked to the Eighth Day. As Juggernuaght did not suceed in implementin Cytorak's plans, he has greatly diminished his powers. He's still class 100, but he has gone from being about as strong as Namor to as strong as colossus. This is a bid decrease. !!!!!!!!!! His durability is also knowhwere near what it used to be. For example Black Tom was nearly successful at killing him with his secondary mutation.

For God's sake once and for all stop with the Namor pushover yahman.
Juggernaut is far above Namor's strenght.

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Juggernaut is at least equal to Thor in strength, and it's a theory his strength could be limitless.
But that's neither here nor there.


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For God's sake once and for all stop with the Namor pushover yahman.
Juggernaut is far above Namor's strenght.


I think you are getting me mixed up with someone else. Namor has knocked the Hulk out cold, something Juggernaught has never done. He broke the crismson bans of Cytorak, which are harnessed by the same power as Juggernaught. I think he might be. smile

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I think you are getting me mixed up with someone else. Namor has knocked the Hulk out cold, something Juggernaught has never done. He broke the crismson bans of Cytorak, which are harnessed by the same power as Juggernaught. I think he might be. smile

yahman I respect Namor you know it, but he K.O.ed Hulk underwater.
It's like saying 8th day Jugg can beat Hulk, it's obvious cause he's at godlike level.

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