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Morgoth - 1000000000000
Tom Bombadil - 15000
Eru - hmmm...
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oddities -
tom bombadil {who is in my oppinion, a representation of the music of eru/valar}
ungoliant
the things that gnaw at the earth and created the tunnels beneath helms deep
valar -
melkor
manwe
tulkas
varda
aule
orome
mandos
yavana
nienna
maier -
sauron with the one ring
eonwe
gothmog
olorin{gandalf}
It is said that Sauron would be able to defeat Tom, who is no way stronger than the Valor.
Is Gandalf in human form stronger than dragons?
Are wolves stronger than Elves? Or is this list unarmed?
If Aragorn weaker than most elves?
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I always liked the idea that he was an incarnation of Eru Illuvitar or perhaps Arda itself.
He sings songs of power (Arda is songs) and the entire land would have to be enslaved for him to fall to Sauron. He says he has 'no mastery over wandering kings' (the nine), which would make sense if Sauron had usurped mastery of them.
no no no. this is a list of who is the strongest of EACH INDIVIDUAL SPECIES. not WHICH species is stronger than which. that wud be a very hard list to make as it wud be very self contradictory.
as for tom, he is older than sauron. and i dont think sauron cud do anything to him himself. ONLY when ALL the land wud be corrupted and destroyed wud tom fall, being the LAST who fell. this gives credulence to the theory that he IS the embodiement of eru's and the valar's combined music, and the entire MUSIC{world} wud have to be detsroyed for him to die. and id say he IS stonger than the valar.
U forgot Numenoreans at 200 or so. And Tom isnt older than Sauron as Sauron helped create Arda. And Eru wouls have, like, Infinity for power. =-p
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Nanye i ne Anduril i macil Elendilo
Lercuvanten i moli Mordoreo
Isil
Turgon aran Gondolin tortha gar a matha, i vegil Glamdring gud dae lo, dam an Glamhoth.
Umm... I don't know about that. Sauron's form, maybe. He was one of the original beings. The Maiar are just weaker Valar. They were there when the world was sung- right?
Tom (depending on what, exactly, you think he is) would date only back to the formation of Arda. Not before.
(Note: Tom calls himself the oldest, but Treebeard is called the oldest living being or some such. Clue?)