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... I find Milo an abhorrent man DDM, do you politically align with him?


I do not find Milo to be abhorrent at all. Not even a tiny bit. A provocateur who likes to troll, yes, but not an abhorrent. I think calling him something like that makes you, specifically, a homophobe and possibly racist since he is attracted to black men. I know and understand how British people use "abhorrent" and it is usually in reference to homosexuals and transgenders. It is a euphemism, bigoted but polite, British people use to express distaste for LGBT people.


To your second point and actual question:

Here are my political beliefs:
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And here are the US political parties I best align with:
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I do not find Milo to be abhorrent at all. Not even a tiny bit. A provocateur who likes to troll, yes, but not an abhorrent. I think calling him something like that makes you, specifically, a homophobe and possibly racist since he is attracted to black men. I know and understand how British people use "abhorrent" and it is usually in reference to homosexuals and transgenders. It is a euphemism, bigoted but polite, British people use to express distaste for LGBT people.


To your second point and actual question:

Here are my political beliefs:
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And here are the US political parties I best align with:
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He's views on sex with children disgust me as do many of his other views. His homosexuality shouldn't be a problem to anyone. So you align with him politically?

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So you align with him politically?


I posted my political positions and they are very clear.

Which ones would you like to compare and contrast with Milo's?


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I personally love Milo.


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I posted my political positions and they are very clear.

Which ones would you like to compare and contrast with Milo's?
he's a strange figure to align with at all. Btw, we reserve abhorrent for nonces and nonce enablers/supporters.

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I personally love Milo.
really? Interesting.

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he's a strange figure to align with at all.


Anything specific, though? Is there a particular political position of mine you would like to compare and contrast with Milo's?

Or is it just you being bored, digging up quotes, and trying to create controversy with those quotes?



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Btw, we reserve abhorrent for nonces and nonce enablers/supporters.


Oh no you don't.

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You done messed up when you tried to troll. You should not have used the label "abhorrent" while including the article adjective ("an") because that's the bigotted labels British use for gay people.

Don't try and weasel out of this. Naughty naughty!


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Anything specific, though? Is there a particular political position of mine you would like to compare and contrast with Milo's?

Or is it just you being bored, digging up quotes, and trying to create controversy with those quotes?





Oh no you don't.

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You done messed up when you tried to troll. You should not have used the label "abhorrent" while including the article adjective ("an") because that's the bigotted labels British use for gay people.

Don't try and weasel out of this. Naughty naughty!
not at all, I'm just interested you like someone who comes out with stuff like this.

Yiannopoulos spoke fondly of "the sort of 'coming of age' relationship ... in which those older men help those young boys discover who they are and give them security and safety and provide them with love and a reliable sort of rock, where they can't speak to their parents."

To be honest he obviously has some abhorrent nonce enabler like opinions.

We reserve abhorrent for nonces mate

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not at all, I'm just interested you like someone who comes out with stuff like this.

Yiannopoulos spoke fondly of "the sort of 'coming of age' relationship ... in which those older men help those young boys discover who they are and give them security and safety and provide them with love and a reliable sort of rock, where they can't speak to their parents."

To be honest he obviously has some abhorrent nonce enabler like opinions.

We reserve abhorrent for nonces mate


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And I heard Milo's rambling about young boys having sex with older men and it being great or something. Obviously, I think that's gross.




But try harder to troll better. Remember, you said this:

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So you align with him politically?


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...do you politically align with him?




Sooooo....are you interested in his politics or naw?


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But try harder to troll better. Remember, you said this:







Sooooo....are you interested in his politics or naw?
Jason Booth, NCA operations manager, said: "Little was financially motivated; her crimes are utterly abhorrent and are one of many examples the NCA is seeing of worsening cyber-enabled child sexual offending.

That's from the National crime agency...

So you agree with Milo, an abhorrent nonce enabler?

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Jason Booth, NCA operations manager, said: "Little was financially motivated; her crimes are utterly abhorrent and are one of many examples the NCA is seeing of worsening cyber-enabled child sexual offending.

That's from the National crime agency...

So you agree with Milo, an abhorrent nonce enabler?


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Anything specific, though? Is there a particular political position of mine you would like to compare and contrast with Milo's?


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I'm surprised anyone can take the guy seriously tbh.

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To be honest DDM, I'm surprised you didn't say, "I find his views on fuking kids abhorrent, however even Hitler was a vegetarian and some people consider that a good idea which isn't extreme", instead of doubling down mate.

Clearly as a generally decent guy, Tim Pool gaslighting aside, that's how you feel I suspect.

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I'm surprised anyone can take the guy seriously tbh.


Since he readily admits to the trolling and humor elements of his opinion pieces he writes, your assessment would be accurate. He's a trolling provocateur and he's there to entertain. He does it very well and he's made millions being that persona.

I did not know much about his statements about his teenage relationship and older men when the controversy leaked. I did not know he was uninvited from CPAC because of it. So I looked it up and included both his and the CPAC's arguments:

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After the release of the video prompted outrage among conservatives on Twitter, Yiannopoulos used a Facebook post to deny supporting paedophilia and claimed the video had been “selectively edited”.

“I did say that there are relationships between younger men and older men that can help a young gay man escape from a lack of support or understanding at home. That’s perfectly true and every gay man knows it. But I was not talking about anything illegal and I was not referring to prepubescent boys.

“I was talking about my own relationship when I was 17 with a man who was 29. The age of consent in the UK is 16.”

Yiannopoulos also wrote that “no subject should be off limits for discussion and particularly for humour”

But Matt Schlapp, the head of the American Conservative Union, which bills itself as the US’s “premier conservative voice”, said that Yiannopoulos’s Facebook statement was “insufficient”.

“It is up to him to answer the tough questions and we urge him to immediately further address these disturbing comments,” Schlapp said in a statement.

“We continue to believe that CPAC is a constructive forum for controversies and disagreements among conservatives, however there is no disagreement among our attendees on the evils of sexual abuse of children.”

In a separate post, Yiannopoulos wrote: “There’s a video going around that purports to show me saying antisemitic things (nope) and advocating for pedophilia (big nope). The shocking thing? It’s Republicans doing it. Sad to see establishment types collapse into the same tactics as social justice warriors.”


https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...ac-online-video


More on the topic you wish to only talk about instead of his actual political positions, I've heard similar from gay men (in the real world) that older gay men helped them come out of the closet, explore their sexuality, and escape cycles of oppression and abuse from their conservative families.



I am definitely interested in talking about the politics, though. Would you like to actually talk about some? smile


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Since he readily admits to the trolling and humor elements of his opinion pieces he writes, your assessment would be accurate. He's a trolling provocateur and he's there to entertain. He does it very well and he's made millions being that persona.

I did not know much about his statements about his teenage relationship and older men when the controversy leaked. I did not know he was uninvited from CPAC because of it. So I looked it up and included both his and the CPAC's arguments:



https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...ac-online-video


More on the topic you wish to only talk about instead of his actual political positions, I've heard similar from gay men (in the real world) that older gay men helped them come out of the closet, explore their sexuality, and escape cycles of oppression and abuse from their conservative families.



I am definitely interested in talking about the politics, though. Would you like to actually talk about some? smile
we call these people nonces in the UK, to be honest I am prejudiced against paedo in first world economies and from first world economies in third world countries particularly, but I don't like any paedo's tbh. Imbalance of power and money is usually the currency in such relationships as you say and Milo fondly talks of.

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we call these people nonces in the UK, to be honest I am prejudiced against paedo in first world economies and from first world economies in third world countries particularly, but I don't like any paedo's tbh. Imbalance of power and money is usually the currency in such relationships as you say and Milo fondly talks of.


I wouldn't call his consensual relationship, at 17, with a catholic priest, "pedo". You care a lot about what Milo did with his penis when he was a teenager.




But don't let the facts get in the way of your virtue signaling monologue. Please continue. Can you take an even stronger position against pedos in your next reply? I'd rather we talk about the politics. You can't tease me with discussions about actual politics and then only talk about celebrity gossip. That's rude!


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I wouldn't call his consensual relationship, at 17, with a catholic priest, "pedo". You care a lot about what Milo did with his penis when he was a teenager.




But don't let the facts get in the way of your virtue signaling monologue. Please continue. Can you take an even stronger position against pedos in your next reply? I'd rather we talk about the politics. You can't tease me with discussions about actual politics and then only talk about celebrity gossip. That's rude!
Funny, Breitbart found his views stated here too much for them and he lost his book deal... but they are O.K. with you. Bit surprised.

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Funny, Breitbart found his views stated here too much for them and he lost his book deal... but they are O.K. with you. Bit surprised.


Correct. thumb up

I am definitely okay with Milo losing his book deal with Simon & Schuster and then Milo self-publishing his book, anyway.



Or were you hoping to box me into a false dichotomy with the double bind scenario?


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Correct. thumb up

I am definitely okay with Milo losing his book deal with Simon & Schuster and then Milo self-publishing his book, anyway.



Or were you hoping to box me into a false dichotomy with the double bind scenario?


It's the entire reason he is bringing up milo.

It's almost adorable he thinks people can't see it.


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Correct. thumb up

I am definitely okay with Milo losing his book deal with Simon & Schuster and then Milo self-publishing his book, anyway.



Or were you hoping to box me into a false dichotomy with the double bind scenario?
Not at all, I'm just interested you guys like him.

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