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ROTJ Darth Sidious vs ROTS Yoda and ROTJ Luke Skywalker
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xPRIMEx
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ROTJ Darth Sidious vs ROTS Yoda and ROTJ Luke Skywalker

Who wins?

Round 2 (if team loses): DE Luke instead of ROTJ

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Darth Thor
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Jedi win. Palpatine has his hands full with Yoda alone.

If its DE Luke, then Jedi stomp.

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Palpatine wins both rounds without too much difficulty.

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Maul gets stomped

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By Sidious? Indeed he does. Just like Dooku.

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Maul gets stomped



At least youre giving Vader a day off.

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At least youre giving Vader a day off.


Don't tempt him.

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Palpatine wins both rounds without too much difficulty.


This.


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Jedi win. Palpatine has his hands full with Yoda alone.

If its DE Luke, then Jedi stomp.


How TF does Palpatine have his hands full with Yoda when he literally beat him before two decades of power growth on his part.


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Palps wins, hes become more powerful in the 20 years since he beat Yoda the first time around and Luke was struggling with Vader, only beat him cuz of victim rage.

So a Yoda hes already beaten even when he was 20 years less powerful and a wet behind the ears kid who struggled to beat his dad who wasn't even trying to kill him.

Emperor wins.

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How TF does Palpatine have his hands full with Yoda when he literally beat him before two decades of power growth on his part.



Because ive not seen convincing evidence that his combat abilities have grown in those 2 decades. Pre DE Clones that is. Certainly not in Canon.

And he just barely bested Yoda the first time.

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Team stomps.


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Because ive not seen convincing evidence that his combat abilities have grown in those 2 decades. Pre DE Clones that is. Certainly not in Canon.

And he just barely bested Yoda the first time.


There are multiple quotes that state the Emperor was ever growing in strength, and ROTJ Sidious also scales above his ROTS counterpart from a logical standpoint too.


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There are multiple quotes that state the Emperor was ever growing in strength, and ROTJ Sidious also scales above his ROTS counterpart from a logical standpoint too.



Its nothing concrete. As in there are no Feats.

Logic wise there is a limit to how powerful he can get (before calling on New abilities like Storms and clones). Otherwise Yoda would have been completely invincible after being a Jedi for 800years.

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Its nothing concrete. As in there are no Feats.

Logic wise there is a limit to how powerful he can get (before calling on New abilities like Storms and clones). Otherwise Yoda would have been completely invincible after being a Jedi for 800years.


The Emperor was also far more powerful than Vader who was stated as more powerful than he was pre suit whilst vastly pre prime who was a rough equal to Sidious as of ROTS and Yoda. His power growth is pretty damned vast.


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Do we know when the last time Sidious swung a saber around was during ROTJ?


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Vader who was stated as more powerful than he was pre suit



Thats disputable.

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It's not even disputable, he's peddling the same debunked horse manure despite getting trashed three times this week on the matter. But yeah, TFU Sheev struggling 'desperately' against Marek, an inferior to Yoda, does not tell me that he's suddenly stomping Yoda or even taking him solidly. Adding ROTJ Luke makes up for any gap.


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It's not even disputable, he's peddling the same debunked horse manure despite getting trashed three times this week on the matter. But yeah, TFU Sheev struggling 'desperately' against Marek, an inferior to Yoda, does not tell me that he's suddenly stomping Yoda or even taking him solidly. Adding ROTJ Luke makes up for any gap.


Getting trashed when exactly, because you say so, the only quote that says something contrary to the 7 is referring to potential and a general passage of time, it could not be any clearer. So an amped Marek giving the Emperor a fight and his inferiority to Yoda at base is being used as an argument. You cannot possibly be this thick. Ironic how you accuse me of getting trashed even though you're a joke on KMC/CV and literally have no credibility, just constantly abuse faulty scaling to favour your own characters, use debunked arguments which are shit and make stuff up when it suits your argument. Which one of us is "TRASH" again?


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Sheev gets humiliated in sabers, and Yoda can hold him off/staletmate him in a force bout. The duo takes this.

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Sheev destroys.


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