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Nibedicus
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Outriders (MCU) vs Reapers (Blade 2)

10000 Outriders face off against 10000 Reapers in a battlefield of eternal night (good visibility, tho. So no advantage given to Reapers there).

There is no leader on each side so they swarm at each other mindlessly. Reapers cannot infect Outriders.

Who wins?

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I give it to the reapers. Unless you cut off their heads or ripped out their hearts, they won’t stop.

The reapers also go for the jugular so they can feed because they are always hungry, that makes them far more dangerous. Barely peak humans were killing the outriders left and right, and casual to.

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Another thing I forgot to mention, which are the repeats greatest assets, are their toxin. Once they bit you, their toxin paralyzes you so they can feed.

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The outriders and honestly every bad guy army in the MCU was kinda pathetic. And any outrider bitten will become a reaper

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OP says Reapers can't infect Outriders. And even if it didn't, there's no proof their venom would work on a completely alien species.

There's also no proof the venom would paralyze them either as again they are aliens and aren't a part of a vampires food chain like humans are.

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OP says Reapers can't infect Outriders. And even if it didn't, there's no proof their venom would work on a completely alien species.

There's also no proof the venom would paralyze them either as again they are aliens and aren't a part of a vampires food chain like humans are.


Pretty sure their venoms also worked on Vamps as well.

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Your right. I missed that. Regardless, Reapers are clearly superhuman while outriders got out down by people with sticks and Hawkeye decimates multiple outriders solo. They get stomped out

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Pretty sure their venoms also worked on Vamps as well.


Okay? Thats like saying a bigger badder snake can poison a smaller one. Not saying that snake can poison an alien.

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Okay? Thats like saying a bigger badder snake can poison a smaller one. Not saying that snake can poison an alien.


The reapers stopped being humans the second they are bitten. Even vamps, immortal beings aren’t immune to the reaper strain. The only one I believed that was immune was Blade due to him being a special case.

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The reapers stopped being humans the second they are bitten. Even vamps, immortal beings aren’t immune to the reaper strain. The only one I believed that was immune was Blade due to him being a special case.


So Blade, a human/vampire hybrid is a special case, but you don't consider aliens who aren't even from the planet and who clearly have insanely different traits(like four to six arms and blue blood) will be effected?

Has a Reaper ever tried to bite a creature from a completely different part of the galaxy/universe?

Because you're making it seem like their venom can affect anything they bite.

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So Blade, a human/vampire hybrid is a special case, but you don't consider aliens who aren't even from the planet and who clearly have insanely different traits(like four to six arms and blue blood) will be effected?

Has a Reaper ever tried to bite a creature from a completely different part of the galaxy/universe?

Because you're making it seem like their venom can affect anything they bite.


Blade is/was not just a vamp hybrid. Before Blade was even borne, there was prophesies about him. That prophecy being connected to the blood God La Magra itself, the father and creator of all Vampires.

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Blade is/was not just a vamp hybrid. Before Blade was even borne, there was prophesies about him. That prophecy being connected to the blood God La Magra itself, the father and creator of all Vampires.



But that was just a throwaway line as it was never brought up again in either of the sequels, and Drake/Dracula was confirmed to be the original vampire.

Even the mystical nature of vampires with La Magra was tossed out as nothing ever came from it.

So unless you've got some evidence that shows Blade as some sort of prophecy child and that it actually means something, those few lines of dialogue don't mean much.

Also iirc, Blade was never even bitten by a Reaper, so we don't know what would have happened to him.

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But that was just a throwaway line as it was never brought up again in either of the sequels, and Drake/Dracula was confirmed to be the original vampire.

Even the mystical nature of vampires with La Magra was tossed out as nothing ever came from it.

So unless you've got some evidence that shows Blade as some sort of prophecy child and that it actually means something, those few lines of dialogue don't mean much.

Also iirc, Blade was never even bitten by a Reaper, so we don't know what would have happened to him.


It was not just throw away. La Magra was the big bad in part 1. Nomak and the reaper strain was never mentioned in part 3 does that make it any less prevalent to the story?

Again you need to read more on your lore. La Magra was/is the blood god. It is through La Magra’s blood that vampires are borne. Drake/Dracula was given that power, so yes he is the original vampire on earth, not the progenitor of the race as a whole.

La Magra is still the blood god in the Blade verse movie, not being mentioned ever again does not take anything away form his status.

Did you even watched the first film? The whole movie was Frost translating the text and how to properly create the ritual to bing the blood god down to their world. In the end, it needed 12 pure blood and the day walker to accomplished that. The only reason La Magra lost to Blade, was because the ritual was incomplete.

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It was not just throw away. La Magra was the big bad in part 1. Nomak and the reaper strain was never mentioned in part 3 does that make it any less prevalent to the story?

Again you need to read more on your lore. La Magra was/is the blood god. It is through La Magra’s blood that vampires are borne. Drake/Dracula was given that power, so yes he is the original vampire on earth, not the progenitor of the race as a whole.

La Magra is still the blood god in the Blade verse movie, not being mentioned ever again does not take anything away form his status.

Did you even watched the first film? The whole movie was Frost translating the text and how to properly create the ritual to bing the blood god down to their world. In the end, it needed 12 pure blood and the day walker to accomplished that. The only reason La Magra lost to Blade, was because the ritual was incomplete.


Not less prevalent, but it also doesn't try to add additional things that were stated by the characters, or the creators.

So you're saying La Magra, who is indeed the Blood God and the only mentioned God of Vampires exists on other worlds and has created vampires across the galaxy? Proof? Because even though he would have had to create Drake, if he even did so and he wasn't just born(it's never explained more than that Drake is just the first and is perfect), that still makes Drake the progenitor of the entire vampire race. He was the first, and all the rest came from him directly or vampires he already turned.

I never said his status dropped, I said it wasn't given as much detail as you're giving it.

I watched all 3 films multiple times. La Magra lost to Blade because he is a Blood God and Blade's serum has a powerful effect on blood since he uses it as a suppressant. He literally exploded in a shower of blood when he OD'd on EDTA serum vials.

And "Daywalker" is a vampire who can walk in daylight, which Blade technically is as his mother was vampirized while pregnant with him, so he got a trickle down effect. It didn't mean him specifically. It meant anyone who fit that bill, so any vampire could bite any pregnant woman, and if she gave birth then the kid would be a daywalker. Simple.

I don't even know why we're on this track of conversation. Are you saying that Reaper venom can affect Outriders, even though they are alien lifeforms and there's no proof or evidence things like Earthborn viruses and venoms and such can have an effect on them?

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