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Wolverine (prime) runs the gauntlet

How far does he get? Fight is on barren land. Combatants start 12ft away. Logan is refreshed after each fight. Logan gets all feats from all movies and he's in his prime.
Logan is bloodlusted and out to kill. No Bfr. Fight to ko or death or incapacitation.

1. DD (mcu version with billyclub)
2. Cap (with shield)
3. Loki (with daggers and no magic, no illusions, etc)
4. Thor (no lightning) just his hands and feet
5. Valkyrie (with sword)
6. Thor (no lightning) with Gungnir in melee combat only
7. Hela (Logan knows what's she's capable of but she doesn't know anything about him)


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Why is Valkyrie above unarmed Thor?

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Beaten by Cap.

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Why is Valkyrie above unarmed Thor?

Because she has a sword and he's gimped (no powers).
Valkyrie with sword would kill Thor with no lightning or other weapons.


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Unarmed Thor gave Hulk a good workout. Valkyrie would get stomped by Savage Hulk.

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2) Could be possibly/likely taken down by MCU Captain America

3) Stops at Loki if he somehow manages to beat Captain America



I like how most of the opponents were gimped in some fashion. As if the thread starter REALLY wants Logan to win for some reason smile


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Unarmed Thor gave Hulk a good workout. Valkyrie would get stomped by Savage Hulk.
He didn't do shit to Hulk but not die. Thor turned the tables with his hammer. Strength is irrelevant here when we have one shot weapons.

So you claiming that Valkyrie with sword would lose to Thor (unarmed and no lightning)? Assuming she was fighting to kill? Although strength will play little in this fight, The distance she throw that guy is on par with Thor's strength. Loki is close to Thor in strength when they tussled. She is not weaker than Loki.

She has the strength and durability to stand up to at least a few hits from Thor. Thor is not surviving any death cuts from that sword. He has no defense against it.


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2) Could be possibly/likely taken down by MCU Captain America

3) Stops at Loki if he somehow manages to beat Captain America



I like how most of the opponents were gimped in some fashion. As if the thread starter REALLY wants Logan to win for some reason smile
How is Cap able to put him down? A hail of machine gun fire, etc didn't even bother him. He stabs Cap once and it's over. That's an easy fight for Logan.
How is Loki beating him? With the daggers? Lmao.


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How is Cap able to put him down? A hail of machine gun fire, etc didn't even bother him. He stabs Cap once and it's over. That's an easy fight for Logan.
How is Loki beating him? With the daggers? Lmao.



Logan can be KO'd by a single bullet to the head, as shown, someone of Cap's strength, speed, durability, agility, fighting prowess and super-human-psychics-defying shield skills could KO Logan with a single blow to the head, if not two or three.

Loki is so many levels above Logan in strength, speed, durability and skill, it's funny, so he could just evade the claws, grab Logan and choke or punch him out.

It's clear you really want Logan to win, why you're gimping so many of his opponents. But it backfired on you.


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He didn't do shit to Hulk but not die. Thor turned the tables with his hammer. Strength is irrelevant here when we have one shot weapons.

So you claiming that Valkyrie with sword would lose to Thor (unarmed and no lightning)? Assuming she was fighting to kill? Although strength will play little in this fight, The distance she throw that guy is on par with Thor's strength. Loki is close to Thor in strength when they tussled. She is not weaker than Loki.

She has the strength and durability to stand up to at least a few hits from Thor. Thor is not surviving any death cuts from that sword. He has no defense against it.


He rocked Hulk a few times and enraged him. He would have ultimately lost if the ground and pound didn't trigger his lightning powers, but that doesnt mean he didn't do better than 99% of characters would in a fist fight with Hulk. Dunno why you feel the need to spin this when we've all seen the movie.

Thor's a pretty skilled fighter. He beat multiple highly-trained SHIELD agents in H2H without any powers. That's a better skill feat than anything Valkyrie has.

And lol at Valkyrie and Loki being anywhere near Thor's physical peers. Loki was done after Hulk smashed him. Thor took it and immediately got up and continued the fight. They're not on the same level. Thor just holds back against his brother for obvious reasons.

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Logan can be KO'd by a single bullet to the head, as shown, someone of Cap's strength, speed, durability, agility, fighting prowess and super-human-psychics-defying shield skills could KO Logan with a single blow to the head, if not two or three.

^^^Which is why i said Cap beats him, which H1 knows is true, which is why he ignored my post. yes laughing


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Logan can be KO'd by a single bullet to the head, as shown, someone of Cap's strength, speed, durability, agility, fighting prowess and super-human-psychics-defying shield skills could KO Logan with a single blow to the head, if not two or three.

Loki is so many levels above Logan in strength, speed, durability and skill, it's funny, so he could just evade the claws, grab Logan and choke or punch him out.

It's clear you really want Logan to win, why you're gimping so many of his opponents. But it backfired on you.


That was a low showing. He has showings that contradict that.
Cap is not koing Logan at all. Cap gets sliced or stabbed.

Hulk, Gladiator, etc are so many levels above Logan in strength. Didn't stop Logan from either beating them or stabbing them. You act like you don't read comics.

Claws that bypass durability, unbreakable skeleton, grade A healing factor equals beating someone vastly stronger


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I don't see him getting past Cap. He'll give Steve a tough fight but Cap is just a lot more skilled, stronger, and with his shield can KO Logan.

If he gets past Cap then he'll definitely get stopped by Loki.


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That was a low showing. He has showings that contradict that.
Cap is not koing Logan at all. Cap gets sliced or stabbed.

Hulk, Gladiator, etc are so many levels above Logan in strength. Didn't stop Logan from either beating them or stabbing them. You act like you don't read comics.

Claws that bypass durability, unbreakable skeleton, grade A healing factor equals beating someone vastly stronger


Sorry, you don't get to ignore a film feat just because it goes against your bias and destroys your argument. Logan can be KOd and Cap very likely KOs Logan.

Logan stops at Loki for sure, if he were to beat Cap. Maybe 1 out of 10 fights he beats Cap.

This isn't the comics section, you can only use the feats film Logan has, stop trying to force a win thumb up


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IIRC, Logan was also KO'd by Sabertooth hitting him with a branch. Pretty sure Cap can hit just as hard with his shield if not more.


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That's right, X-Men (2000), good memory thumb up

I'm sure the thread starter will claim that feat doesn't count either because it ruins his argument.


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That's right, X-Men (2000), good memory thumb up

I'm sure the thread starter will claim that feat doesn't count either because it ruins his argument.


Yup. It proves that Logan getting KO'd wasn't a one-off thing. There's also his fight against Juggernaut where he was getting completely ragdolled. While Wolverine wasn't completely KO'd in that fight, he was having trouble getting up multiple times and was completely groggy after getting hit by Juggy. Had that been a boxing match it would have already been called a KO by the ref or at the very least a TKO.

And if he was struggling to land hits on Juggs, well, everyone in this list is far more skilled that Marko.


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Getting hit by Juggernaut without being koed contradicts all his low showings. Wading through machine gun fire without missing a beat.

It is silly to use one's low showings against another's high showings. I can make Thing or even Spider-Man beat Superman in that case. It's a form of trolling.


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Sorry, you don't get to ignore a film feat just because it goes against your bias and destroys your argument. Logan can be KOd and Cap very likely KOs Logan.

Logan stops at Loki for sure, if he were to beat Cap. Maybe 1 out of 10 fights he beats Cap.

This isn't the comics section, you can only use the feats film Logan has, stop trying to force a win thumb up
If I have showings that contradict then I can ignore.

You can't use one characters high showings against another ones low showings. That's trolling.

I can argue Spider-Man beats Superman or something even worse.

I was using another medium of fiction yo show that your logic is flawed. In fiction, strength is meaningless if someone can bypass the stronger's durability. That's why Logan can stab beings like Hulk and Gladiator, etc.

If a person is a thousand times stronger than me but I can cut their head off (or an arm) then what did strength matter. Boards don't hit back.


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