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Wolverine vs. Spider-Man
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Originally posted by geshien
the wolverkick! most dangerous maneuver in the universe...well next to puck's fist2nuts attack...


"there's no adamintium there"

He maybe small, but his super power is he can prevent you from having kids wink


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Originally posted by capt it up
Not true actually. Logan durability with out his healing factor is enhanced. True durability has nothing to do with healing factor.


True how ever does it matter? It what gives him his superhuman stamina.


You are referring to the original ahnd book which was the next year redone putting logan as beyond human. Also The first issue logan appeared in he was written with no healing factor but with spiderman level strength and superhuman durability.


There from his healing factor and they got stronger over time.
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Before the program he still has superhuman stats in every thing basically.


Logan's durability (sans healing factor) is nothing to write home about. Even wielded by normal humans, needles still puncture him. Knives still cut him. Bullets still pierce his skin. His still bleeds when normal humans or characters with no super strength punch him in the face. His bones still break (pre-adamantium) when he does something bone-breakable (the only stronger bones were his claw bones, they were actually much stronger than normal and could withstand a lot of punishment).

What kind of enhanced durability is this when he's shown he's just as durable as the next guy?

My point exactly. Wolverine does not have enhance durability (and if he does, it's VERY MINIMAL). His healing factor is what makes him appear to be durable.

Wait wait wait. In Wolverine's first appearance in the Hulk comic, he was written to have Spider-Man level strength? Where are you getting this from? What the f**k?


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Originally posted by King_Mungi
"there's no adamintium there"

He maybe small, but his super power is he can prevent you from having kids wink



EXACTLY!!! *high five* i love that issue laughing

he reminded me of smegol in that one. hiss! BAM! ~runs away~


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You do know its impossible to see bullets in slow motion no expression

It also impossible to lift a truck and throw it yet that has yet to stop thing.

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Its possible to say that Wolverine's nerves are faster than a normal humans can be thus letting him interpret the bullet and move as a normal human cannot, thats how Cap dodges bullets

Again you are thinking capt and wolverine are on the same level when that is not the case. Also capt does not have hyper sense and superhuman reflexes which all him to see the bullet in slow motion and then dodge it as explain in the weapon x noval which is a cannon source.

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Oh and Spidey's speed >>> Wolverine's speed

Combat speed? Prove it

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EXACTLY!!! *high five* i love that issue laughing


guy even punched a Wendigo demon in the...*cough* baby maker as well. Like how is he not a role model?


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Originally posted by capt it up

Again you are thinking capt and wolverine are on the same level when that is not the case. Also capt does not have hyper sense and superhuman reflexes which all him to see the bullet in slow motion and then dodge it as explain in the weapon x noval which is a cannon source.


Combat speed? Prove it


Its simple science no expression

Its impossible to see a bullet in slow motion

Oh and Cap and Wolverine are on the same level, deny it all you want

Also, after 739 pages and you still think Wolverine is faster than Spiderman laughing


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Logan's durability (sans healing factor) is nothing to write home about. Even wielded by normal humans, needles still puncture him.

Really when has a needle wielded by a normal human punctured him?

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Knives still cut him.

So would it cut spiderman.

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Bullets still pierce his skin.

So does it pierce spiderman skinn

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His still bleeds when normal humans or characters with no super strength punch him in the face.

Really when? He did not even bleed when warpath a class 90 punched him as ahrd as he could. Also spiderman has bleed from being hit by humans as well.

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His bones still break (pre-adamantium) when he does something bone-breakable

Really like when? He bones hardly broke they were thought of as unbreakable before because of how durable they were. Only extremely strong being broke his bones such as hulk.

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(the only stronger bones were his claw bones, they were actually much stronger than normal and could withstand a lot of punishment).

It was sated numerous times that his claws were made out of the same dense bones of his body.

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What kind of enhanced durability is this when he's shown he's just as durable as the next guy?

Let see so the next guy can take 20 bullets to the gut and walk around and keep fighting? This with out the uses of logans healing factor.

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My point exactly. Wolverine does not have enhance durability (and if he does, it's VERY MINIMAL). ?

Go read the weapon x noval it explains it in detail.

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Wait wait wait. In Wolverine's first appearance in the Hulk comic, he was written to have Spider-Man level strength? Where are you getting this from? What the f**k?

Yes he was they had an interview of it and they also talk about it in the back of the x-men ultimate guide.

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Originally posted by Grimm22
Its simple science no expression

Its impossible to see a bullet in slow motion

Oh and Cap and Wolverine are on the same level, deny it all you want

Also, after 739 pages and you still think Wolverine is faster than Spiderman laughing


it also impossable to lift several tons. it impossable to have spider powers. The whole comic world is impossable yet you have no problems with it unless it ahs to do with logan.


no capt and logan are not on the same level as stated in countless hand books.


You have yet to prove it in 739 pages

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Originally posted by capt it up
You have yet to prove it in 739 pages


740 pages now!


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740 pages now!

your right 740 pages lol

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Dunno if this has been posted - don't have enough time to read through 740 pages! reading

Anyway, this pretty much sums up my whole argument...

"Those pigstickers may scare the bar room bullies, but to me you're a joke!"

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Dunno if this has been posted - don't have enough time to read through 740 pages! reading

Anyway, this pretty much sums up my whole argument...

"Those pigstickers may scare the bar room bullies, but to me you're a joke!"

sums up nuthing. it sums out logan takign spidy to lightly. Logan was fine how ever and unlike spidy logan never been KOed in one of there fights.


also you do realize that single event was full of PIS. nigth crawler getting caught in webbing, colossus and rouge both unable to break webbing. hulk at base level lifting 150 billion tons.

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also you do realize that single event was full of PIS. nigth crawler getting caught in webbing, colossus and rouge both unable to break webbing. hulk at base level lifting 150 billion tons.


So a ridiculous wolverine feat is just "evidence" for you, but any feat for any other character in marvel that in any way makes a character superior to logan is either PIS, or jobbing by another character.

Your arguments have become repetitious and boring.


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So a ridiculous wolverine feat is just "evidence" for you, but any feat for any other character in marvel that in any way makes a character superior to logan is either PIS, or jobbing by another character.

Your arguments have become repitious and boring.

what rediclous feat have i used?


the fact is the whole x-men team foguth spidy out of character and fell to moves that were well in there abilities to dodge or get out of.

again what did that fight prove? prove that a lunging logan can get hit by spiderman whoopy.

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guy even punched a Wendigo demon in the...*cough* baby maker as well. Like how is he not a role model?
He has become one of my favorites.
especially, when he had his... umm... knee(?) showing through the sheets.


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sums up nuthing. it sums out logan takign spidy to lightly. Logan was fine how ever and unlike spidy logan never been KOed in one of there fights.


also you do realize that single event was full of PIS. nigth crawler getting caught in webbing, colossus and rouge both unable to break webbing. hulk at base level lifting 150 billion tons.


You know what the funny thing is?

Despite all the others (Storm, Colossus, Rogue, and Nightcrawler), Wolverine WAS acting in character. He did just what he would always do.

And you say he wasn't trying hard to attack or damage Spidey? Hm...the un-sheathed claws could've fooled me. erm

Wolvie came at Spidey TWICE with un-sheathed claws, looking to stab him. I think that's painfully obvious. Spidey, however, wants no part in that and simply avoids him (easily) and then swats him away (even easier), something very easily-done given Spider-Man's abilities.


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You know what the funny thing is?

The Pats owning the football game?

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Despite all the others (Storm, Colossus, Rogue, and Nightcrawler), Wolverine WAS acting in character. He did just what he would always do.

He first attack was in character the second how ever was not? Logan was so close to spiderman the there was no reason to jump by jumping he made his attack slower which is some thing logan would not have dumb unless he was planning to tackle spiderman and not stab him.

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And you say he wasn't trying hard to attack or damage Spidey? Hm...the un-sheathed claws could've fooled me. erm

You do realize he ahs his claws unsheathed all the time with out fighting to kill people such as when he fought shatter star and even though he had his claws out he never once aimed to kill.

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Wolvie came at Spidey TWICE with un-sheathed claws, looking to stab him. I think that's painfully obvious.

That’s why it was bad writing if logan was planning to stab spiderman the second time then why yell any thing out? Why jump when that waist time and be a far slower attack since he was literally like 3 feet away.

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Spidey, however, wants no part in that and simply avoids him (easily) and then swats him away (even easier), something very easily-done given Spider-Man's abilities.

Not true since logan has proven time and time again to easily hit spiderman

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He first attack was in character the second how ever was not? Logan was so close to spiderman the there was no reason to jump by jumping he made his attack slower which is some thing logan would not have dumb unless he was planning to tackle spiderman and not stab him.


You do realize he ahs his claws unsheathed all the time with out fighting to kill people such as when he fought shatter star and even though he had his claws out he never once aimed to kill.


That’s why it was bad writing if logan was planning to stab spiderman the second time then why yell any thing out? Why jump when that waist time and be a far slower attack since he was literally like 3 feet away.


Not true since logan has proven time and time again to easily hit spiderman


...How does jumping slow you down? What the f**k?

If you have momentum behind you, which he did (since he appeared to be running), a strong jump will actually give you a burst of faster speed.

Honestly, it doesn't matter. Had Wolvie stayed on the ground, he still would've swatted away just as easily.

You say he wasn't trying to hit Spidey with his claws. I say you're blind. no expression

And he didn't scream/yell or anything when he lunged at Spider-Man. He didn't give his presence away at all. Spidey's spider-sense told him all he needed to know.


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He has become one of my favorites.
especially, when he had his... umm... knee(?) showing through the sheets.


He's the man of the people

1. http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l...urDead-02-1.jpg


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He's the man of the people

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God, would he ever wreck Wolverine.


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