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Actually, Cain and Abel are werewolves to whomever said they are vampires 
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Yes. Silverbullets are the usual werewolf killer.
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droopy1592
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I know Smith has a cult following, but the way Seraph fought Neo, I'm a Seraph fan!
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If Neo just doesnt use his powers with Seraph, then I would consider them equals in strength...
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BadgerBadger
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One Mans Explanation of Seraph (Discuss...)
The bit in enter the matrix where seraph says hes indebted to the orcale, his golden code and the fact that he said hed beaten smith before got me thinking ... Seraph is derived from Serapihm, the highest council of angels and (if i remeber right) the angels of death, wreaking gods vengence with fire and brimstone and wotnot. some of the angles of deaths decided to rebel and not carry out the smiting as they thought this was wrong, thus they were banished by god for not following his actions.
So... maybe seraph was a matrix angel of death, the 'original agent' that somehow repented and decided not to go after rouge programs, anomolies etc anymore and the orcale was key in his becoming sentient and becoming a rouge program himself.
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Nov 12th, 2003 01:41 PM |
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sleepincat
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Seraph protects that which matters most. What matters most according to Morpheus, is that "we are still here". He ensures that the equation is unbalanced, this is why he protects the Oracle. 
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Nov 12th, 2003 01:50 PM |
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The none
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Hmmmmmmmmm, interesting thought, he did have said that he's beaten Smith once, but when or how we do not know.
Hey, come to think of it, if Neo is to the Christ, n Smithy is to Satan, than haven't Satan himself used to be an angel?!
Blimmy.......
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Nov 12th, 2003 01:56 PM |
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droopy1592
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Hmmmm, maybe Seraph was an angel of death, or maybe he used to work for Merv...
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Nov 14th, 2003 02:58 AM |
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Hmmmmm, let's follow the leads.
If Seraph used to work for Merv, together against the agents, hence the Matrix, then Merv, as other have said, might used to be one of The Ones.
Hmmmmmmm........... 
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Nov 14th, 2003 06:14 AM |
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criminaltwin
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IT has been said the merv = lucifer, ok got that.
Either the oracle or the archi is god, i think its arch, ok i got that too.
Now people keep saying that Seraph is Micheal, God's right hand man pretty much and th person who cast down Lucifer (merv). Hence the quote "the prodigal son returns".
If I am going to stick with my guns about saying that god is archi, then Seraph can't be Michael because I never recall Micheal being cast out in anyway.
But what if Seraph isn't Micheal he is in fact Gabriel. Gabriel was one of the 2 highly ranked angels, and yes he was cast out for a period of time by God he fell from grace for not obeing a direct order.
Gabriel was also a so called angel of death he is the Archangel of annunciation, humanity, resurrection, heavenly mercy, vengeance, death, revelation, truth, and hope. all of which fit perfectly to Seraph.
You can also use the reference that if seraph is not only an angel of death but of destruction aswell, not necessarily a bad angel, then if we use this with jewish teachings theses angels serve two functions, the first is to descend to the earth and inflict terrible suffering upon those among the living who are wicked and in need of punishment. The second is to inflict even worse punishment upon damned souls in hell. The wicked here would be Smith and hence there previous fights, also since they are to inflict even worse punishment to those who are already condemmned to hell then this would tell us why merv/lucifer hates him so much.
I will have more to add to later, but if any would like to have a stab at this theory right or wrong please feel free to do. I am still only a newcomer.
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Nov 17th, 2003 03:15 AM |
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MC Mike
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Good thoery, and it is very probable, but don't forget that not EVERYTHING has to agree exactly with the biblical partner. If Seraph is Gabriel or Michael, who the heck is the Oracle? See...? But great theory nonetheless.
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Nov 17th, 2003 03:19 AM |
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xemir
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Seraphs my favorite character out of all 3 movies. I remember smith talking about him chasing seraph in REV. but when did Seraph or Smith talk about fighting each other? I don't remember but like most things probably just sliped my mind.
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Nov 17th, 2003 03:49 AM |
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droopy1592
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Seraph just said "I've beaten you before"
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Nov 17th, 2003 03:50 AM |
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ElBiUs
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i liked your theory BadgerBadger (please log in to view the image)
therefore, i think that seraph was the first agent, the most important, and after some event, he decided to become a defense program.
Seraph protects that which matters most: the future of the one
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Nov 17th, 2003 04:20 AM |
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criminaltwin
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In Jewish texts there is another archangel Metatron, Metatron is only know by many other names, 72 actually so if some of this sounds like another angel, I doubt it is.
Talking about Seraph as having the golden code when Neo first sees him,
"Metatron is charged with the sustenance of mankind. He has been known as the link between the human and the divine. The angel who wrestled with Jacob" (Genesis 32)
Everywhere I have found is that Gabriel/Metatron is the one who wrestled w/ Jacob, can some please inform me on who Jacob was exactly.
Metatron resdies in the 7th Heaven and when evoked appears as a pillar of fire said to be more dazzling than the sun.
Since Metatron is not exactly Gabriel many have said that he was more powerful/mightier than Micheal and Gabriel.
Metatron was also said to be the teacher of children who have died prematurely hence why Seraph is with the Oracle, all the children that had "died" (been taken out of the matrix) the Oracle is the only person we really see with these kids, and since Seraph is there to protect which matters most which seems to be the future that only the Oracle can predict. Then Seraph is also around the children as often as the Oracle.
Sorry if I blurred texts together in this.
Punctuation isn't my strong point, kinda long sentences.
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Nov 17th, 2003 04:21 AM |
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xemir
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wow your right. Seraph protects the future "of the children" and the matrix it self because all the children that the Oracle takes care of seem to have special powers and purposes. If you think about it neo trinity morpheus are children of the oracle too. I completly agree with you criminaltwin. Also The Metatron is in dogma.
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Nov 17th, 2003 04:30 AM |
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criminaltwin
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I don't really beleive I am right xemir, although I would like to think that my theory is quite plausable.
I would actually like someone to prove it wrong, so at least I know where I stand.
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Nov 17th, 2003 04:45 AM |
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xemir
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I think your right.
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Nov 17th, 2003 04:53 AM |
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ShOota
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Wingless
in M3 when Seraph is walking towards the warewoofs/Vamps, one of them say 'oh look, its wingless. So they must know Seraph is some kind of angel and they must have seen him b4
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